New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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^I wonder how many of those were Teslas. I would like to see greater competition in Europe from Chinese brands, not just built-in-China Teslas. I see BYD and NIO here, but there's certainly room for many more brands to join.

Without competition there cannot be improvement. Too many European brands got lazy since they only competed against US cars (mostly useless) and the Japanese behemoths have largely ignored EVs.

The absolute worst scenario would be protectionist barriers, which would only perpetuate mediocrity and the cost would be borne by the European taxpayer by having to buy crappier, more expensive cars.
 
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mossen said:
^I wonder how many of those were Teslas. I would like to see greater competition in Europe from Chinese brands, not just built-in-China Teslas. I see BYD and NIO here, but there's certainly room for many more brands to join.

Without competition there cannot be improvement. Too many European brands got lazy since they only competed against US cars (mostly useless) and the Japanese behemoths have largely ignored EVs.

The absolute worst scenario would be protectionist barriers, which would only perpetuate mediocrity and the cost would be borne by the European taxpayer by having to buy crappier, more expensive cars.
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So far BYD sales in Europe are very low, only single or double digits. They are doing much better in Asia Pacific, pretty much dominating EV sales in Thailand/Israel/Singapore/Malaysia and Australia/New Zealand.
 
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mossen said:
^I wonder how many of those were Teslas. I would like to see greater competition in Europe from Chinese brands, not just built-in-China Teslas. I see BYD and NIO here, but there's certainly room for many more brands to join.

Without competition there cannot be improvement. Too many European brands got lazy since they only competed against US cars (mostly useless) and the Japanese behemoths have largely ignored EVs.

The absolute worst scenario would be protectionist barriers, which would only perpetuate mediocrity and the cost would be borne by the European taxpayer by having to buy crappier, more expensive cars.
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The others are going to be Chinese built Volvos and Dacia Spring as well. MG4 is probably the best selling “Chinese” vehicle (name notwithstanding). Not being European, I am curious how this car has become relatively popular.

I don’t believe protectionism can be a sustainable long term strategy. The more protectionist, the more the brands grow complacent and fall behind. It is true for US, China, Japan, etc. It will always leave an opening for an upstart, unless you go full USSR system (which looking at the US behaviour with semiconductors, is totally possible)
 
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