I don't think there are appreciable numbers of families with 3 kids.
New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China
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I don't think there are appreciable numbers of families with 3 kids.
Weekend funny stories continued ......
(1) Wheels coming off Tesla’s China drive
(2) TESLA’S CHINA GAME
Here is the kicker: (1) and (2) are the same article. (2) is the original source.
If you just browse headlines like I usually do on a Saturday morning, you would have thought Tesla was in trouble in China. But if you read between lines in the context of recent US stock market turmoil and Shanghai lockdown, Teslas's business in China is not bad at all.
Here is the quiz for IQ: why did (1) post that headline over the original article?
(1) Wheels coming off Tesla’s China drive
(2) TESLA’S CHINA GAME
Here is the kicker: (1) and (2) are the same article. (2) is the original source.
If you just browse headlines like I usually do on a Saturday morning, you would have thought Tesla was in trouble in China. But if you read between lines in the context of recent US stock market turmoil and Shanghai lockdown, Teslas's business in China is not bad at all.
Here is the quiz for IQ: why did (1) post that headline over the original article?
About the Russian article, that's why I said it's important for China to work with these ASEAN countries to create charging stations with the Chinese standard chargers. Get as many countries with your charging standard as possible. How can that be a bad thing.
Right now, it's probably a scary market for Chinese automakers to make big plays, when they have EU markets in their sights. But when the Ukraine conflict is on pause, I can see Chinese automakers making a big play there. Especially Chery and Geely who already have big presence there. But I see this more as a 2023/2024 type of events. Chinese EV automakers are having trouble producing enough for the domestic market right now.
More smart EVs coming in the market. Not sure on Jidu, but the other two are in the 300k to 600k market. This is Chinese automakers finally taking a crack against the Germans. Of course, Denza will be a large part of this. The 175 to 300k market is way too competitive right now in China.
L9 already has quite a few orders and it looks like a really nice car.
I was ready on Chinese social media and they were saying that the hardest part about ordering a flagship BYD car (like Han) is to convince the wife to give up the BMW 3 series. That's the problem facing domestic automaker still. They are not considered as good as German cars by many people even though they are fantastic cars.
Also, I read that a lot of people are dropping their Tesla pre-order for BYD ones because they delivery wait time for Tesla Model 3 could be 5 or 6 months long. Being able to raise production level is really important.
Right now, it's probably a scary market for Chinese automakers to make big plays, when they have EU markets in their sights. But when the Ukraine conflict is on pause, I can see Chinese automakers making a big play there. Especially Chery and Geely who already have big presence there. But I see this more as a 2023/2024 type of events. Chinese EV automakers are having trouble producing enough for the domestic market right now.
More smart EVs coming in the market. Not sure on Jidu, but the other two are in the 300k to 600k market. This is Chinese automakers finally taking a crack against the Germans. Of course, Denza will be a large part of this. The 175 to 300k market is way too competitive right now in China.
L9 already has quite a few orders and it looks like a really nice car.
I was ready on Chinese social media and they were saying that the hardest part about ordering a flagship BYD car (like Han) is to convince the wife to give up the BMW 3 series. That's the problem facing domestic automaker still. They are not considered as good as German cars by many people even though they are fantastic cars.
Also, I read that a lot of people are dropping their Tesla pre-order for BYD ones because they delivery wait time for Tesla Model 3 could be 5 or 6 months long. Being able to raise production level is really important.
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Does anyone have more news or articles about the change / adoption of different charging standards worldwide? I think this is an important race, since China is dominating in EVs now, can they promote more GB/T standard worldwide or is GB/T still only available in China?
I don't think the actual charging plug matters too much. It's similar to how electrical devices have different plugs in different countries.
Different charging standards affect more than just the plug. Plugshape can be changed with adaptor, but charging standards include charger to EV communications, how fast, what modes of charging. It also affects the charging station equipment and many other things, it is way more important than you think.
Rules and standards matter a lot in every industry, China must capitalize on its lead in everything EV and take control of the dominant standards.
I don't see the items you listed as critical to efforts to export or produce electric vehicles. Everyone else will be subject to the same standards, unless of course you build out your own charging network so that it's better than anyone elses (eg like what Tesla has done in many countries)
It would be nice if GBT was used widely, but it's not a big issue to use another standard like CCS or Chademo for export cars. At least you can piggyback on the existing charging networks because the charging port competition is between Tesla vs CCS (US/Europe) and Tesla vs Chademo (Japan).