New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

sndef888

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Seems kind of unlikely. Billions of euros for a unit that hasn't even started full production and is under tons of american sanctions. Maybe huawei's self driving is really better than expected?

But very interesting. Could be a sign Germany intends to strengthen economic cooperation with China. Last year Huawei also won a contract to equip 30 million VW cars with 4G. Imagine if millions of VW cars came equipped with Huawei self driving. Let's just hope the German industrial lobby is strong enough to overcome the American puppets infesting German media and NGOs.
 
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ZeEa5KPul

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Seems kind of unlikely. Billions of euros for a unit that hasn't even started full production and is under tons of american sanctions. Maybe huawei's self driving is really better than expected?

But very interesting. Could be a sign Germany intends to strengthen economic cooperation with China. Last year Huawei also won a contract to equip 30 million VW cars with 4G. Imagine if millions of VW cars came equipped with Huawei self driving. Let's just hope the German industrial lobby is strong enough to overcome the American puppets infesting German media and NGOs.
Absolutely not. When China is allowed to buy German technology companies, China might consider reciprocating.
 

BlackWindMnt

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Seems kind of unlikely. Billions of euros for a unit that hasn't even started full production and is under tons of american sanctions. Maybe huawei's self driving is really better than expected?

But very interesting. Could be a sign Germany intends to strengthen economic cooperation with China. Last year Huawei also won a contract to equip 30 million VW cars with 4G. Imagine if millions of VW cars came equipped with Huawei self driving. Let's just hope the German industrial lobby is strong enough to overcome the American puppets infesting German media and NGOs.
Yeah i also doubt it, unless Huawei has been bleeding money and is close to bankruptcy i don't see a reason for them to sell off that part. Especially now that they are building their own silicon/chip supply line.
 

Tam

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Toyota's 360 degree turnaround on EVs is amazing and dizzying. Not too long ago their CEO was lobbying governments to lift restrictions on ICE and saying the loss of ICE will result in losing thousands of Japanese jobs. Its not surprising because Japanese car makers excel in ICE, and EV will overturn those many decades of expertise into nothingness. But its likely Toyota has many internal factions that are pro-EV that is turning on the heat to Toyoda-san, and after that Toyota acted on EVs as if their futures rightly depend on it.

Toyota's partnership with BYD is not surprising because partnership is Toyota's new and successful strategy, since they had partnerships with GM to build hatchbacks, such as the Toyota Matrix now Corolla Hatchback, with BMW on the new Supra, with Subaru for the GT/GR86 sports car, with Mazda for the Corolla Cross.
 

gelgoog

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Toyoda is a dumb hack. He's got a Law Degree and an MBA. Wrong profile for leading a technical company.
The last engineer leader Toyota had was his father. And it shows. The leaders after his father left have been trash.
His father started Lexus and the Prius. Then left two years after the Prius was released.
 

ougoah

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Toyoda is a dumb hack. He's got a Law Degree and an MBA. Wrong profile for leading a technical company.

MBAs running the engineers, accountants running making the decisions, lawyers running the PR and marketing policies.

Toyota still has top market share pretty much everywhere. By late 2030s NEVs are going to be the majority in some countries - major markets but nowhere near all. Toyota will still be making billions more than competitors come 2030s.
 
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