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Z-8 aew

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picture appear to be Z-8 AEW version.like french horizon,it carry retratable antenna.
while the helos appear to be a AEW,I am not sure,may be battlefield surveillance helos.provide target data for artillery, MLRS.

 

[maozedong]

Re: Z-8 aew

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picture appear to be Z-8 AEW version.like french horizon,it carry retratable antenna.
while the helos appear to be a AEW,I am not sure,may be battlefield surveillance helos.provide target data for artillery, MLRS.

why open new thread?

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/navy/latest-plan-aircraft-carrier-info-photos-94-4714.html

 

[tphuang]

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picture appear to be Z-8 AEW version.like french horizon,it carry retratable antenna.
while the helos appear to be a AEW,I am not sure,may be battlefield surveillance helos.provide target data for artillery, MLRS.

we already have a naval helicopter thread. As for Z-8 AEW, I saw pictures yesterday. Not convinced it's AEW, was expecting something larger like what we saw on ka-31 or EH-101.

 

[Ambivalent]

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we already have a naval helicopter thread. As for Z-8 AEW, I saw pictures yesterday. Not convinced it's AEW, was expecting something larger like what we saw on ka-31 or EH-101.

Actually, that looks exactly like a battlefield surveillance version of the Super Puma I saw during a visit to France. The radar folds down and rotates under the helo.

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The French Army flies these.

 

[Totoro]

True, it could very well be a prototype of such a system, just because of the shape of the array, suggesting smaller wavelength more appropriate for battlefield surveillance missions. That being said, there is nothing preventing a similar layout (antenna being folded behind the fuselage) for a possible AEW variant.

 

[plawolf]

That Z8 looks pretty old and battered.

I can't remember a single example of where the PLA has tested new equipment on old platform, especially when the platform in question is still in production.

The PLA seems to prefer to make changes to the planes while they are still in the factory and test their systems on brand new airframes.

 

[Sczepan]

Pictures of Z-8JH in a rescue exercise with 115. And then it shows a bunch of Z-8JH's tail, I'm guessing it's trying to show that the tails can be folded.

additional:

 

[tphuang]

more on this ka-28 deal

MOSCOW: Kumertau Aviation Production Enterprise, JSC, part of the industrial holding managed by Russian Helicopters, has produced the first shipment of the anti-submarine Ka-28 for The Republic of China Navy. The helicopters were ordered by Rosoboronexport. The first three of nine helicopters are completing tests.

“The first shipment of the Ka-28 to China is a small but confident step in the broadening cooperation with our Chinese partners. Today and in the future the Russian helicopter industry is ready to provide any modern rotorcraft for navy and army forces of most countries, including our partners in China,” CEO Russian Helicopters Andrei Shibitov stated.

Sergey Mikrukov, Managing Director, Kumertau Aviation Production Enterprise, adds: “There is a stable upward trend in global demand for Russian helicopters. Our Enterprise is ready to satisfy the needs of our partners in Asia, the Middle East, South America, and on other markets both in midsize (Ka-28, Ka-32) and light (Ka-226T) helicopters.”

The Ka-28 is the export variant of the Ka-27 ASW helicopter. It is fitted with high-altitude TV3-117VMAR turboshaft engines with increased nominal and cruise performance. In the search role it is equipped with radio sonobuoys, and in the search and attack role – with anti-sub bombs and torpedoes (including the high-speed homing APR-2E Orlan).

The Chinese Navy already acquired eight Ka-28s in 1998 (five ASW and three search & rescue) equipped with the cutting-edge Izumrud search system. The ASW Ka-28s were based on two Sovremenny class destroyers purchased from Russia, and Luhai class destroyers. The helicopters also assisted in targeting the on-board supersonic anti-ship SS-N-22 Sunburn missiles.

By 2000 the Kumertau Enterprise has built 33 Ka-28 helicopters for customers from China, India, Vietnam, Syria, Yugoslavia, and Cuba.

Kumertau Aviation Production Enterprise is a dedicated coaxial helicopter manufacturer. Builds all Ka-27 and Ka-31 types for the Russian Navy, the civil Ka-32A11BC, and new Ka-226 and Ka-226T. Jointly with Kamov the Enterprise is constantly modernising the serial Ka-226 helicopter and the Ka-27 and Ka-32 families.

Russian Helicopters, JSC is an affiliated company of UIC Oboronprom. It is the managing body of the following helicopter industry enterprises: Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant, Kamov, Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant, Kazan Helicopters, Rostvertol, Progress Arsenyev Aviation Company, Kumertau Aviation Production Enterprise, Vpered Moscow Machine-Building Plant, Stupino Machine Production Plant, Reductor-PM and Helicopter Service Company (VSK).

UIC Oboronprom, JSC is a multi-profile industrial and investment group established in 2002. Its main tasks include helicopter engineering (Russian Helicopters managing company), engine-building (United Engine Industry Corporation managing company), air defense systems and complex electronic systems (Defense Systems holding company), and other machine-building activities. The companies of the group reported revenues of over 100 billion roubles in 2008.

I don't know what's going on here, but I'm pretty sure China got more than 8 ka-28 just from all the penants I've seen so far. I'd venture probably anywhere from 12 to 20. This would just add to that total

 

[rhino123]

Actually if the report is correct and it refer to Republic of China Navy, it would means it was Taiwan's Navy and not China's navy. China is known officially as People's Republic of China and Taiwan is Republic of China.

With this simple mistake, I really doubt the reliability of the report. Unless, until now the Russia was still mixed out between PRC and ROC.

 

[Maggern]

Actually if the report is correct and it refer to Republic of China Navy, it would means it was Taiwan's Navy and not China's navy. China is known officially as People's Republic of China and Taiwan is Republic of China.

With this simple mistake, I really doubt the reliability of the report. Unless, until now the Russia was still mixed out between PRC and ROC.

Would the Russians risk exporting military hardware to Taiwan? Aren't they more concerned about keeping good relations with China?