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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
The movie was all right but I think they hyped it up a little too much. There was a story put out that Joss Whedon, who directed the Avengers and will direct Avengers 2, came out from watching a studio screening saying that it was going to be hard to top Iron Man 3 and it had him worried if he can make Avengers 2 live up to expectations. Unless Joss Whedon really drops the ball, I don't think he'll have that much of problem topping Iron Man 3.
 

ABC78

Junior Member
Military involvement in making movies the US, China and other countries all do it. Some just do it better than others.

The Pentagon's grip on Hollywood
A report on the film 'Act of Valor' and the growing ties between the film industry and the war industry.


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The Pentagon's grip on Hollywood
A report on the film 'Act of Valor' and the growing ties between the film industry and the war industry.
Listening Post Last Modified: 02 Jul 2012 07:30
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The military entertainment complex is an old phenomenon that binds Hollywood with the US military. Known as militainment, it serves both parties well. Filmmakers get access to high tech weaponry - helicopters, jet planes and air craft carriers while the Pentagon gets free and positive publicity.

The latest offering to come from this relationship is Act of Valor and it takes the collaboration one step further. The producers get more than just equipment – they have cast active-duty military personnel in the lead roles, prompting critics to say the lines have become so blurred that it is hard to see where Hollywood ends and Pentagon propaganda begins.

In this week’s feature, the Listening Post’s Nic Muirhead looks at the ties between the US military and Hollywood.

"I find the idea of the military-entertainment complex to be extremely interesting, especially in the past two decades. There seems to have developed a really unhealthy relationship between the military and filmmakers and I guess the word that comes to mind is propaganda.

America is a country where there's a huge amount of distrust of governments so that I think if you know any effort to make wars that are illegitimate seem legitimate will be treated with some scepticism but on the other hand if it comes from movies, hey we all love movies and they're likely to be more believed even if they are saying things that are you know, really straight out of the Defence Department."

Michael Ryan, author of Camera Politica

There are two separate videos below one on youtube and on the original page.

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ABC78

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The apparent trend of trying to appease Chinese-government officials in hopes of securing some of the world’s second-largest box office continues. After Paramount changed a minor plot point in the Brad Pitt zombie apocalypse feature World War Z (to blame another country for causing the attack) and Marvel and Disney allowed government officials on the set of Iron Man 3 to “monitor filming,” Michael Bay and Paramount have seemingly launched a four-pronged campaign to woo the Chinese market during the making of Transformers 4.

The Hollywood Reporter reveals that the fourth film in the popular franchise will “be a Chinese co-production involving the inclusion of some Chinese content,” will be partially filmed in China, and will feature four Chinese actors cast on a Chinese reality show created entirely for that purpose. The literally titled Transformers 4 Chinese Actor Talent Search will begin in June 2013 with the goal of casting two actors with professional acting experience and two without. Sadly, the judging panel will not feature Megan Fox, any Victoria’s Secret models, or robots with an eye for talent, but instead the film’s actual casting director and producers associated with the project. The four winners will not be the only cast members representing China, however; the producers add that the contestants “will join a number of talented Chinese actors and actresses” in Transformers 4. On top of that, indieWire reports that “Chinese censors will apparently consult on the project to make sure ‘that the Chinese military are depicted as a highly competent group of super-fighters.’” So that too.

Bay has good reason for including Chinese filmmakers, actors, and locations in the making of his next Transformers movie. The last installment in the franchise, Dark of the Moon, grossed $165 million in China alone.

Transformers 4 is scheduled for a June 2014 release.

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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
According to the Hollywood entertainment media Hollywood reigns in China because they make better quality movies. Take a look at the movies that have reigned in China they say are quality movies.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
According to the Hollywood entertainment media Hollywood reigns in China because they make better quality movies. Take a look at the movies that have reigned in China they say are quality movies.

I wouldn't exactly call Michael Bay movies high quality. Entertaining perhaps, but quality I have to say negative ghost rider.

Problem with Asian filmaking is they are still stuck in the old 1970's 'kung fu' movies mindset of acting with the fake cry, over zeolous laughter, overdramatic death scenes and terrible CGI.
However there are some really really good Asian movies as well with very good actors and well crafted set designs and good directors. Unfortunately these movies are relatively unknown and usually do not have the big budget marketing hype.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I was surprised to see that China based visual special effects companies were involved in Hollywood productions. Oblivion was partly done in China. Kathleen Kennedy who is now the head of Lucasfilm was in China recently to sign some deals. I think one test will come when we see what Kung Fu Panda 3 will look like. Most of that animation is being done in China. China's production value is on par with Hollywood. Their stories is what has to be worked on and that will come when Beijing gets rid of their restrictions on domestic filmmakers.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
I wouldn't exactly call Michael Bay movies high quality. Entertaining perhaps, but quality I have to say negative ghost rider.

Problem with Asian filmaking is they are still stuck in the old 1970's 'kung fu' movies mindset of acting with the fake cry, over zeolous laughter, overdramatic death scenes and terrible CGI.
However there are some really really good Asian movies as well with very good actors and well crafted set designs and good directors. Unfortunately these movies are relatively unknown and usually do not have the big budget marketing hype.

True, but now Hollywood is stuck with cliche films with predictable endings. There's are hardly any new original blockbuster films because it's so expensive to make and a risk to the studios. That's why we've been seeing a lot of comic book character films, sci-fi prequels and sequels again and again. CG seems to take over plot and dialogues. That's why I prefer some of the British sci-fi films like "District 9" or British director like Ridley Scott last sci-fi "Prometheus".
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
True, but now Hollywood is stuck with cliche films with predictable endings. There's are hardly any new original blockbuster films because it's so expensive to make and a risk to the studios. That's why we've been seeing a lot of comic book character films, sci-fi prequels and sequels again and again. CG seems to take over plot and dialogues. That's why I prefer some of the British sci-fi films like "District 9" or British director like Ridley Scott last sci-fi "Prometheus".

I recently saw a movie call IronSky on Netflix. At first I had very very low expectations and thought it would be on par with made for TV type Sci-Fi shows or worse BUT I was blown away by it's production quality and semi good acting. The plot is ridiculous because it involves a bunch of Nazis from the far side of the Moon intending to invade Earth but it was purposely made to be a campy B type action thriller. Either way I was very impressed with the CGI and general production quality. I looked at IMDB and saw that the budget was like $10 mil and was even more impressed!!!
 

Jeff Head

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My sons, son-in-law, and I saw Iron Man 3 and Olymous has fallen last week. Both were very good in their own rights and we enjoyed them.

Now waiting anxiously next week for Star Trek: Into Darkness. That's going to be a great movie, and a huge box office hit. Then the next week I will be taking all of the grandkids to see Epic, which looks very good too.
 
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