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Su-57, eh? Looks like it's against the Russkies yet again.

Helius said:

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Su-57, eh? Looks like it's against the Russkies yet again.

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So Iceman is an Admiral. Yes Russia is the current "bady" in Hollywood and China is the other current "bady" for MSM.

Helius said:

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Su-57, eh? Looks like it's against the Russkies yet again.

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It was always a fictional adversary like ace combat and still Is. The first film’s “Mig 28s” sported a red star in a Yellow ring as the roundel. Thats not Russia. Russia is a red star in white star. It’s also. Not China. Closest is DPRK a red star in white circle ringed in blue.
In the new movie they have the advantages of CGI allowing them to put anything they want into the sky. However it’s a composite based on Iran. I can say that with confidence as along side the SU57 the “Rogue nation” also flys F14s (only the USN and IRAF had those) both are marked with a Red Bird on black with a Yellow ring. Which May retroactively mean that Iran is now the first films villains to. Farther ties to Iran is the bird, the Shahbaz back to the Persian empire. Yes it is an SU57 based model yet Russian and Iranian fans have been painting SU57E in Iranian colors for longer than SU57 haze existed.

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So Iceman is an Admiral. Yes Russia is the current "bady" in Hollywood and China is the other current "bady" for MSM.

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China usually gets a pass as if you were a producer and went to the studios with a script that cast the PLA as a villain, the studios would toss you onto the streets due to the fact that it would prevent said production from having any chance of marketing in Mainland China. Many movies have tried to bend over backwards to sell to China. The Transformers movies for example. Even the Jacket sported by Maverick in this movie has been altered to remove a patch that displays the ROC flag. Startrek Discovery and Picard have gone as far as to name drop two ships with distinctly Chinese names.
Hollywood would rather make a US general a villain than any PLA Officer with possibly two exception Tomorrow Never Dies and Lethal Weapon 4. But only as corrupt tools used by shady characters to line their own pockets.

Russia has been Hollywood’s favorite kicking stone for decades. But it let up some in the 1990s where before that it was open post that it was always a rogue junta of Ultranationalist generals.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

China usually gets a pass as if you were a producer and went to the studios with a script that cast the PLA as a villain, the studios would toss you onto the streets due to the fact that it would prevent said production from having any chance of marketing in Mainland China. Many movies have tried to bend over backwards to sell to China. The Transformers movies for example. Even the Jacket sported by Maverick in this movie has been altered to remove a patch that displays the ROC flag. Startrek Discovery and Picard have gone as far as to name drop two ships with distinctly Chinese names.
Hollywood would rather make a US general a villain than any PLA Officer with possibly two exception Tomorrow Never Dies and Lethal Weapon 4. But only as corrupt tools used by shady characters to line their own pockets.

Russia has been Hollywood’s favorite kicking stone for decades. But it let up some in the 1990s where before that it was open post that it was always a rogue junta of Ultranationalist generals.

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I don't care what Hollywood tried to cater to the large Chinese audience overseas, because being large is NOT China's fault that the movie industries doesn't want to lose their major movie making profits. Now as far as the MSM that's a different beast. They don't require any appeal to the Chinese movie audience but rather to the domestic political audience instead. That's why we're seeing all sorts of anti-China news every day, that resulted in a toxic environment where Asian hate crimes have occurred frequently.

That's why you see Republicans becoming anti-corporation because they don't like the Western capitalist principle of catering to your audience and they don't want that for Chinese audiences. Follow those principles and it's easy to figure out. If they don't want to cater to a Chinese audience, then don't show your movies in China and make money. What Republicans are really complaining about is they want their anti-China movies and then force the Chinese to have to watch and pay Hollywood for doing it. That isn't Western capitalist principles. That's white supremacist principles trying to hide behind it.

What Hollywood has practiced is Tokenism. It’s not “White Supremacy”, that term has lost all meaning in modern culture. Used as a dog whistle for “Speach we don’t like”. Farther these days Asian Americans are often being painted as “White”.
Hollywood loves to talk art and free speech but is the first to stereotype if you break from their views.
Especially if a member of a minority identity.

China or any country will block imports of films they don’t like. The Hollywood corporate though tries to cater to China even when it should be blatantly obvious that the product will never get there. I mean the reshoots of The Red Dawn reboot? Seriously.
Farther thing is the Corporate side of Hollywood isn’t making that much from distribution in China. Remember Chinese studios are putting out their own censor approved blockbuster movies. Which has farther reduced the number of spots for imports. American movies that were imported had to go through tight import controls with the Chinese distribution eating up the lions share. Films like Milan might have sold 20 years ago but today?
So the pandering and Tokenisum falls on
Farther Top Gun will probably never enter the Chinese market. Top gun is pretty much “American propaganda” and the CCP is in a banner year with Red cliffs. Do as I say not as I do. CCP can criticize the US as much as it likes, but flip the script…

MGM didn't reshoot Red Dawn because they hoped it would show in China. They did reshoots because they knew MGM would be punished by having none of their movies shown in China especially the James Bond franchise especially since MGM was up for sale an no one was buying because of the China impact on its business.

It's funny how they think they do one little thing for China, China is supposed to open their market up to them immediately. If China called Putin's war an invasion, would the West drop all complaints and sanctions they have on China? They won't. It would only be a tiny step in a stairway to heaven before they would even consider it. Why the unequal perspective? White supremacy of course.

I hope they have more of the homoerotic bromance of the first movie. Besides it being famous as movie length US naval aviation recruitment ad, it contained some of Hollywood's most unintentionally funny scenes.

I have for a long time now, pretty much sick of the Hollywood military propaganda movies but if this one had the unintentional comedy of the first, It might be fun to watch.