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Re: RED DAWN (2010) - Changed Enemy

ravenshield936 said:

I haven't seen neither of the movies you've mentioned.

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THe Deer Hunter
A Drama exploring on how the Vietnam war affected the lives of people in a small US industrial town. I think it won the best picture award at the academy.

Apocalypse? Director FF Capola? Had Marlon Brandon and a young Harrison Ford, a rather strange movie but worth a watch actually. I think it also picked up a few Oscars.

Re: RED DAWN (2010) - Changed Enemy

My main gripe is not so much portraying the Chinese as the main villains but instead of hiring Chinese they hire Korean to further instigate the stereotypes of Asians being the same and not even using Chinese but probably some Korean accented English disguised as Chinese (non-asians wont know the difference).

Re: RED DAWN (2010) - Changed Enemy

Well you got Jackie Chan playing in the remake of the Karate Kid or have they changed the title

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bladerunner said:

Well you got Jackie Chan playing in the remake of the Karate Kid or have they changed the title

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Well technically Karate comes from China which spread to the vassal kingdom of Ryuuku Kingdom (present day Okinawa) then came to Japan when it was invaded by Japan.

"Karate was originally written as Chinese hand in kanji. It was later changed to a homophone meaning empty hand. The original use of the word karate in print is attributed to Ankō Itosu. He wrote it with the kanji 唐手:からて (Tang Dynasty hand) rather than the present usage of 空手:からて (empty hand). The Tang Dynasty of China ended in AD 907. The kanji representing it remained in use in Okinawa as a way to refer to China generally. Thus the word karate was originally a way of expressing "Chinese hand," or "martial art from China."

But yeah they probably should change the title to Wushu Kid or something.

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solarz said:

ROFL... ever read western news reports about China stopping the playing of 3D version of Avatar in order to make place for Confucius?

According to those journalists, the Chinese government is worried that Avatar strikes a cord with those chinese who are forced to move by the government.

Also, the highest ranking villain in Avatar is a military colonel and a corporate stooge, conveniently placing all the blame on a group of "rogue" elements.

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The movie Confucius sucked anyways lol.
But yea, once again, a rogue general. That's what I mean by placing blame on individual or organization. Even then, it's fictional account with fictional characters, and the organization takes place in the future, therefore, has no resemblance of the real-life counterpart.

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bladerunner said:

THe Deer Hunter
A Drama exploring on how the Vietnam war affected the lives of people in a small US industrial town. I think it won the best picture award at the academy.

Apocalypse? Director FF Capola? Had Marlon Brandon and a young Harrison Ford, a rather strange movie but worth a watch actually. I think it also picked up a few Oscars.

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I've heard of the Deer Hunter. My mom bought it (my parents "sweep" dvd stores in hk) and I knew it existed in one of the thousands of dvds inside the cabinet, but I've never watched it.
She told me it's very good(though she doesnt look like the type that watch that type of stuff), but I wasn't really interested in it especially with the name and the strange-looking cover.

But now you've said it, I guess I'll check it out during one of the more free weekends. thanks for the suggestion

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In4ser said:

My main gripe is not so much portraying the Chinese as the main villains but instead of hiring Chinese they hire Korean to further instigate the stereotypes of Asians being the same and not even using Chinese but probably some Korean accented English disguised as Chinese (non-asians wont know the difference).

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I doubt any Chinese will want to take part in this piece of trash, or find their face on something like this, especially accepting it is quite insulting to us as it is.

It's like saying "Hey I'm gonna have a film where your people came to try and invade us, but we kicked their ass. Can you play as one of them?"

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ravenshield936 said:

I doubt any Chinese will want to take part in this piece of trash, or find their face on something like this, especially accepting it is quite insulting to us as it is.

It's like saying "Hey I'm gonna have a film where your people came to try and invade us, but we kicked their ass. Can you play as one of them?"

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Lol that last part is real funny xD

@ bladerunner: I thought they were just calling it the karate kid in the US and the kung fu kid in asia? And they're not saying jackie chan is a master of karate - he actually teaches kung fu in the movie - they're just using the same name for marketing and heritage's sake imho, there's no parallel to koreans portraying chinese people in red dawn.

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There are so few roles for Asian actors in Hollywood that any Asian actor will play anything. Back in the 40s and 50s when they made a lot of WWII movies, they used Mexicans to play Japanese because there weren't enough Asians to play them. Plus I recall there was a call out for Asians in the area where they filmed Red Dawn to come and play extras.

So are we now blaming China because the Americans who are remaking the Karate Kid movie has no karate in it and is set in China not Japan?

Mickey Rourke is set to play Ghengis Khan in another American produced movie.

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AssassinsMace said:

There are so few roles for Asian actors in Hollywood that any Asian actor will play anything. Back in the 40s and 50s when they made a lot of WWII movies, they used Mexicans to play Japanese because there weren't enough Asians to play them. Plus I recall there was a call out for Asians in the area where they filmed Red Dawn to come and play extras.

So are we now blaming China because the Americans who are remaking the Karate Kid movie has no karate in it and is set in China not Japan?

Mickey Rourke is set to play Ghengis Khan in another American produced movie.

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No offense but that's why I have a 70% hating rate of Hollywood. I just can't stand all the bias, the stereotypes, and all those disgusting attitudes in the industry.
This is not limited but included: Negative Asian portrayals. White guys date Asian girls and steal them from Asian men, while Asian men don't get any girls.
Always as Triads or mobs
Finding American actors to play historical figures even if they don't fit the role.
Destroying stories.
Poor to minimal attempt to accurately portray other people's cultures.
Very strong theme of Americanism in some of the movies.

And the worst of all crimes ---- remaking movies, buying copyrights, and then completely destroying them by injecting what was mentioned above.
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You guys should be familiar with Tong Leung, the guy who's Zhou Yu in Red Cliff. He's got perfect English and even small touch of British accent to it. He's almost a perfect actor. So they asked, why wasn't he in Hollywood. And it turned out he denied the offers when they tried to have him play as those corner store owners. Totally shows how Hollywood treats Asian talents if they aren't women.