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ABC78

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The big thing that bothered me was how a certain character was able to pretty much mastered many Jedi skills w/o proper training. Luke spent months trained by yoda in dagobah. It would've been nice if something similar happened here..
I had no problem he was shot badly in the side by Chewie and she seemed pretty good with a staff maybe some of those skilled could be translated into using a lightsaber. Now if she did that to an uninjured Ren then I might have issues.
 

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I had no problem he was shot badly in the side by Chewie and she seemed pretty good with a staff maybe some of those skilled could be translated into using a lightsaber. Now if she did that to an uninjured Ren then I might have issues.

I agree. Also, the Force is all about believing in it. Luke was never exposed to it since his uncle intentionally wanted to keep him away from this kind of influence. And new character on the other hand had been exposed to all the rumors and legends of the Force. So it's easier to believe and accept.

Another thing is her past experience. She lived a hard life and had to deal with all kinds of danger on her own since little. Luke however was pretty spoiled and was only whining about joining the academy because all his buddies joined. He never had to deal with any danger in his own. So it makes sense to me that she was a lot quicker to adapt than he was.
 

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Another thing is that she might have stumbled upon the Force before. We know that she was natural. We know that she did a lot of fighting, just based on the kind of environment she was in. It was a tough and rough life. So it's completely possible that she already started using the Force in her fights although she might have no clue what she was doing. All she knew was that she could do something to beat her enemies. And she would have no problem using it because these "tricks" kept her alive. And somehow her new experience with Han and co. Might have enhanced these kinds skills (I don't want to go into the details. If you have watched the movie, you would know what I mean...).
 

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Los Angeles (AFP) - "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" smashed the opening night record in the United States and Canada and was poised to become one of the biggest grossing movies ever, industry experts said.

The latest instalment of the highly anticipated space epic raked in $57 million for its opening night Thursday, easily beating the previous record -- $43.5 million -- held by "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2" in 2011.

Disney gushed that combined with Friday figures, ticket sales "are pointing to a total day of $100M+ for a new industry record... and the first triple-digit-million day ever!"

The "Harry Potter" film holds the all-time record for opening day at $91 million but the new "Star Wars" -- which has had rave reviews and even saw Stormtroopers "invade" the White House on Friday -- is expected to also force it out of that slot.

"This represents a new record for the industry and portends a massive and potentially record-breaking opening day and weekend for the film," said Paul Dergarabedian, of box office tracker Rentrak.

"The Force Awakens," which has had its legions of fans frothing at the mouth ever since its mooted release, has grossed at least $130 million worldwide since it opened overseas on Wednesday, setting records in Britain, Germany, Norway and Sweden.

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Analysts predict that the seventh instalment of the iconic space saga, which cost Disney an estimated $200 million to produce, could score the biggest opening weekend ever and could even become the biggest film of all time.

"We appear to be headed for $200M+ through Sunday and the possibility of an all-time weekend record," Disney said.

The opening weekend record is currently held by "Jurassic World," which premiered earlier this year to $208.8 million at the box office.

As far as all-time box office sales, two films by James Cameron hold the record -- "Avatar" ($2.78 billion) and "Titanic" ($2.18 billion).

"The potential for 'The Force Awakens' to ultimately break into the $2 billion club worldwide is certainly in the realm of possibility," Dergarabedian said.

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- 'Join $2 billion club' -

Jeff Bock, box office analyst at Exhibitor Relations, said: "As far as breaking records go, it’s the strongest candidate weve seen in a long, long time.

"It might join the $2 billion club worldwide, and maybe, just maybe, be the highest grossing film of all-time."

Disney, which bought the rights to the "Star Wars" franchise from its creator George Lucas for $4 billion in 2012, has built up the hype around "The Force Awakens," rolling out a well-orchestrated marketing campaign that has left fans wanting more.

Early reviews of the movie have given it a big thumbs-up and three more instalments are due in the coming years.

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"The Force Awakens" picks up the intergalactic story of good versus evil 30 years on from "The Return of the Jedi," the finale of the original trilogy.

The trio of heroes who appeared in the first of the blockbusters in 1977 -- smuggler Han Solo (Harrison Ford), Princess Leia (Carrie Fisher), leader of the rebel alliance, and her twin brother Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) -- are all back and played by the actors that Star Wars first made famous.

The film is being screened in 4,134 theaters in North America, a record for a December opening.

- White House joins hoopla -

Even the White House was getting into the "Star Wars" hoopla.

A gaggle of Stormtroopers and the droid R2-D2 were spotted in the West Wing on Friday -- there was a screening of "Star Wars" for people who lost family in the Iraq war.

Giving an end-of-year press conference, President Barack Obama revealed he too was swept up by the mania.

"Clearly, this is not the most important thing that's taking place in the White House today," he joked.

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest also appeared unannounced at the lectern of the briefing room, flanked by Stormtroopers.
 

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All good valid points however to me it's still inconsistent. It devalues the power of the dark side of the force if a tottaly untrained person can defeat a person who can frekin stop a blaster bolt in midair!
It like me beating up bruce lee and my nly experience is from fighting in middle school

Well, even Fin who did not seem to have the Force could actually land a blow on him. So the injury he had played a huge part. And you can see that he was bothered by the injury. Also, something else that happened before the fight might have mentally affected him more than he showed (again, no details... If you have watched the movie, you know what I'm talking about). So he was definitely not as focused as he should be. His opponents on the other hand were angry, mad and had nothing to lose. That made them dangerous.

Also, even Stokes said at the end that he wanted to bring him back in to finish the training. So it means that he's still in training.

Keep in mind that He's definitely not as polished as the Lord Vader himself. He is also not Darth Maul.
 

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Colonel
Another thing is again the experience. The bad guy had the training but how much actual experience had he had? He had been sheltered by his previous and current mentors. He could easily deal with the "muggles". This might be the first time he actually faced someone who could actually fight. On the other hand, she had been dealing with scums and bad guys all her life. Most likely, she had been dealing with enemies who were physically stronger than her most of her life. And she had been in life or death situations a lot more than him. She might not have the training, but her experience and wits gave her a chance.
 
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