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Colonel
The key is the resistance of the (dead) human body vs the strength of the barrier. It's like throwing an egg at a brick wall. Doesn't matter how strong you throw it, the egg is going to shatter before the wall is even dented. A horde of zombies pushing against a strong wall will only result in zombie paste.

That's why they focus on the gate, the weakest point on a wall.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I agree Jeff I just got out of it and it was well done and loyal to a degree to the original Marvel story line I was amazed they got Robert Redford though, he's a great actor. And Scarlett Johansson was superb an other young actress who has looks, brains and talent the total package as they say she makes a wonderful Widow. Hawk was well played and Samuel L Jackson made up for his Robocop annoyance with a great cover of fury
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
I've even heard that's it's better than the first one. I'm planning to see it with my buddies this weekend.:D
You will really enjoy it.

IS it better than the first? Hard to say. I really liked the first. but it does up the ante (IMHO) and really has a lot of action, very good interspersed humor, and a good storyline...and of course, a LOT of good acting.

As I say, I am really looking forward to the obvious 3rd in the series they will follow this one with.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I saw Robert Redford interviewed after it was announced he was in the movie. It sounded to me either he was a secret comic book fan or he just got with the program seeing superhero movies are now the tent pole movies of the industry. Besides he seems to like doing political thrillers which this one follows that route. I have to say one thing that disappointed me was hoping a rumor that was on the internet was true but turned out to be false or the producers decided not to do it. It has to do with Redford's character revealing something. I won't say because it would be too revealing but to those who have watched the movie, it would've fit perfectly with how the story played out. Which is why it was probably in the cards as an alternate ending.
 

Franklin

Captain
Captain America The Winter Soldier is more than just a comic book film. There is a serious political element in it as well.

"Captain America: The Winter Soldier" Is About Obama's Terror-Suspect Kill List, Say the Film's Directors

There are currently no plans to screen Captain America: The Winter Soldier at the White House, as far as the film's directors have heard. But if it makes it to the White House family theater, President Obama would be watching one big-budget, action-packed, and Scarlett Johansson-starring critique of his controversial terror-suspect "kill list."

This isn't me reading things into a mainstream comic-book movie. It's what the directors themselves will tell you.

"[Marvel] said they wanted to make a political thriller," Joe Russo, who directed the film with his brother Anthony, tells Mother Jones. "So we said if you want to make a political thriller, all the great political thrillers have very current issues in them that reflect the anxiety of the audience...That gives it an immediacy, it makes it relevant. So [Anthony] and I just looked at the issues that were causing anxiety for us, because we read a lot and are politically inclined. And a lot of that stuff had to do with civil liberties issues, drone strikes, the president's kill list, preemptive technology"—all themes they worked into the film, working closely with screenwriters Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely.

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In The Winter Soldier, Captain America and the rest of the heroes (played by Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie, Samuel L. Jackson, Cobie Smulders, and so on) confront the government program Project Insight, which involves three Helicarriers (gigantic autonomous killer drones, basically) that are fed large amounts of data and intel. The Helicarriers process the data to identify and preemptively eliminate potential threats to national and global security. And though the film's topical parts were all crafted prior to the NSA revelations, the directors say it's no accident that data mining is a key element of the plot: "It was all leading up to Snowden," Joe says. "It was all in the ether [already], it was all part of the zeitgeist. The Snowden stuff actually happened while we were shooting."

The politics of The Winter Soldier fit comfortably into the Russo brothers' oeuvre, which has included plenty of political satire and commentary. Prior to The Winter Soldier, the duo was best known for directing episodes of Arrested Development, which produced some of the finest satire of the Bush era and Iraq War, and Community, which is also peppered with solid political humor and jabs. (As for their go-to sources for news and politics, Anthony's top two are the the New York Times and NPR, while Joe's are Digg and Reddit.) The day I interviewed them, they happened to be in Washington, DC, to meet with the Congressional Creative Rights Caucus.

According to Joe, the brothers pushed to make their Captain America political thriller even more political and topical than it initially was. "There were already things in the script that just needed to be pulled out to make it more [relevant]," he recalls. One of the film's stars, Robert Redford, was approached for the role in large part because he starred in the 1975 political thriller Three Days of the Condor.

"[That film] was a big influence on this movie," Joe says. "You could really call this movie 'Three Days of Captain America,' if you wanted to. The structure is so similar...We felt like we had a decent shot at getting [Redford] because the script had a political component to it and we thought that might motivate him."

But don't take any of this to mean the film is a stern lecture on American foreign policy. It's thrilling as hell, and also the best to emerge in the recent string of Marvel movies. "We're action fetishists," Joe says. "And we love '70s thrillers." The brothers drew on the influence of some of their favorite action-flick moments: The famous bank heist and shootout in Michael Mann's Heat. William Friedkin's The French Connection. John Schlesinger's Marathon Man. John McTiernan's Predator. Gareth Evans' The Raid: Redemption. (And for the Washington, DC-set car chase in The Winter Soldier, the brothers consulted YouTube, searching for videos of actual car chases. One video—wherein two escaped convicts in Brazil get stuck in traffic and plow through cars as police pursue them on foot—was especially helpful.) "Choreographing action, it's like choreographing a Broadway show," Anthony says.

But at the heart of the explosion and melee -filled film are the political themes, including targeted killing. "The question is where do you stop?" Joe says. "If there are 100 people we can kill to make us safer, do we do it? What if we find out there's 1,000? What if we find out there's 10,000? What if it's a million? At what point do you stop?"

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B.I.B.

Captain
Hollywood are going full circle after realising that Biblical stories are a cheap source for movie scripts. But I can't say I enjoyed "Noah' vary much though.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Captain America The Winter Soldier is more than just a comic book film. There is a serious political element in it as well.



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the Shield storyline from the comics also dealt with some of this in fact well making there political thriller they stayed loyal to the original. And they created a movie that sits well in both. Now the next step is coming as always in these they had the cliff hanger teaser after the credits so we know another movie is brewing.
I have to say though I kinda wish they would background black widow's past I mean she is a full avenger, she may not have powers but if they wanted a political thriller movie there is a perfect starter.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Hollywood are going full circle after realising that Biblical stories are a cheap source for movie scripts. But I can't say I enjoyed "Noah' vary much though.

I'll watch "Noah" just to see how Russell Crowe's character builds the arch and collecting all the animals and such. I enjoy a good historical mystery and science into the possibility that it could be down back than.
 

broadsword

Brigadier
Movies like Ben-hur and Samson are long overdue for remakes. I wonder why Hollywood have not got onto it after doing so many other remakes.
 

MwRYum

Major
Movies like Ben-hur and Samson are long overdue for remakes. I wonder why Hollywood have not got onto it after doing so many other remakes.

That's the problem with classics and CGI - they usually don't mix well, and more classic the movie is, that's the bigger risk of the remake could ruin it....face it, those massive scenes is thing of the past, now most if not all are done with CGI.

Also, the term "action packed" has changed so much since then.

Plus, if the "Noah" 3D movie is any clue, Ben-hur and Samson were laced with so much biblical reference, in the days of active Christian fundamentalism there could be more controversies than before I afraid.
 
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