There are huge swathes of China that are sparsely populated, once you go North/West a few hundred miles from the coast you'll be fine.
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There are huge swathes of China that are sparsely populated, once you go North/West a few hundred miles from the coast you'll be fine.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
If you're lucky to be there when the zombie apocalypse hits... Chances are if you were in China you'll be in the center of chaos and panic when it hits the fan. Getting there will be the never ending gauntlet of hell.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
I still think the total collapse of organised military forces is the most unlikely part of zombie fiction. After you get past the initial shock and disbelief, the military could counter zombies quite easily.
A very simple tactic would be to just armour up. A line of tanks and APCs don't even have to shoot, they can just literally steamroll as many zombies as stand before them with minimal risk and likely zero casualties to the troops.
A very simple tactic would be to just armour up. A line of tanks and APCs don't even have to shoot, they can just literally steamroll as many zombies as stand before them with minimal risk and likely zero casualties to the troops.
solarz
Brigadier
The problem is that a zombie apocalypse would affect everyone, everywhere. There would be no front line, no safe zone, when the dead start rising.
How can you ensure that soldiers would stay to do their duty when their families and loved ones are likely in mortal danger? Even if you could get enough soldiers to do their jobs, would you be able to get enough support personnel to provide logistic support? How many zombies could you kill before your tanks need maintenance and fuel? Let's go with a big number and say 100,000. That's 100,000 down, 1,399,900,000 to go.
Without logistics, your platoon of loyal soldiers become just another group of survivors.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Zombies don't magically spring up out of nowhere, even in the most extreme fictional scenarios as if that happens there is no hope.
If we go with the traditional zombie plague transmission method of bites or scratches, then there will be front lines and safe zones.
The key is when a government realises it cannot save everyone and cuts its losses, sacrificing hundreds of thousands or even millions to save the rest. In that respect, China as a civilization would be better placed than most because its leaders tend to look at things in terms of the big picture. That means that their first instincts would be to organise logistics, establish safe zones and draw up long term battle plans rather than making speaches or trying to create photo ops as some leaders' instincts may cause them to do.
As for soldiers staying at their posts, well again, that's not a new problem and all militarise go to great lengths to indoctrinate its raw recruits into obeying orders without question or hesitation when they train them up to be soldiers.
If that training fails, the PLA has MPs like all other armies, and political officers/commissars who will make sure discipline is maintained.
If your civilisation is reduced to scattered bands of survivors scavenging what they can form the bones of dead cities, then your civilisation is already lost, and its only a matter of time before everyone gets turned or killed.
The only way any civilisation, or the human race for that matter, can survive a zombie apocalypse is if some form or organised government survives to direct and focus the efforts of the survivors into establishing safe zones and adapt industry to produce the food, clean water, medical supplies, weapons and tools needed to face down and then turn back the undead tide.
In a way, I think the Chinese government is missing out on a huge opportunity with this genre, since it could quite plausibly cast China and Russia as the ones most ready and able to do that under the strong unified leadership of the central government, and contrast that to the indecisiveness and short sightedness of others that end up dooming their people.
But in order to pull that off, they will have to show the ruthless efficiency and cold hearted calculations needed to focus on the big picture, and I'm not too sure the Chinese government want to promote such an image of itself, even if it secretly counts that as one of its key strengths.
If we go with the traditional zombie plague transmission method of bites or scratches, then there will be front lines and safe zones.
The key is when a government realises it cannot save everyone and cuts its losses, sacrificing hundreds of thousands or even millions to save the rest. In that respect, China as a civilization would be better placed than most because its leaders tend to look at things in terms of the big picture. That means that their first instincts would be to organise logistics, establish safe zones and draw up long term battle plans rather than making speaches or trying to create photo ops as some leaders' instincts may cause them to do.
As for soldiers staying at their posts, well again, that's not a new problem and all militarise go to great lengths to indoctrinate its raw recruits into obeying orders without question or hesitation when they train them up to be soldiers.
If that training fails, the PLA has MPs like all other armies, and political officers/commissars who will make sure discipline is maintained.
If your civilisation is reduced to scattered bands of survivors scavenging what they can form the bones of dead cities, then your civilisation is already lost, and its only a matter of time before everyone gets turned or killed.
The only way any civilisation, or the human race for that matter, can survive a zombie apocalypse is if some form or organised government survives to direct and focus the efforts of the survivors into establishing safe zones and adapt industry to produce the food, clean water, medical supplies, weapons and tools needed to face down and then turn back the undead tide.
In a way, I think the Chinese government is missing out on a huge opportunity with this genre, since it could quite plausibly cast China and Russia as the ones most ready and able to do that under the strong unified leadership of the central government, and contrast that to the indecisiveness and short sightedness of others that end up dooming their people.
But in order to pull that off, they will have to show the ruthless efficiency and cold hearted calculations needed to focus on the big picture, and I'm not too sure the Chinese government want to promote such an image of itself, even if it secretly counts that as one of its key strengths.
The idea is similar to 2010 Odyssey Two, where the Chinese were in a race against the Russo/American team in an effort to reach Europa first. The Chinese spacecraft was named Tsien after Qian Xueshen, the Chinese rocket scientist of whom author Arthur C. Clarke was a huge fan of.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
I just came back from watching Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Well Marvel said they didn't want to make the same movie with just a different superhero in each. The movie plays on themes about debates over the War on Terror and NSA spying so it'll be interesting how people will take it. Also if you've been watching Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. on TV, the show is definitely going to be affected by the outcome of this movie.
GREAT! I am going to see it tomorrow.
Looking forward to it.
Yes, we also watch Agents od SHIELD.
Thanks for the review.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Yeah, but those soldiers could in turn train civilian survivors on how to be self defend against zombies and such. They don't have to be in their actual units to be effective fighters, they can adapt, fight, organize, and teach others depending on the situation. An example would be look at history of the militia's throughout the world. Although mainland Chinese don't have the luxury of owning a firearms to practice shooting and maintenance and safety of weapon like here in the US (that could really cut down on time for weapons training), they can learn to adapt and improvised with whatever available tools they have at hand. The point is soldiers don't have to be the only one doing the fighting, remember they are civilians too.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Zombies are fantasy so therefore the laws of how to handle them are unrealistic. The rules are going to change from show to show. In this last season of the Walking Dead there was some tidbits revealed about the undead. They're attracted to fire and will walk into it. All they have to do is find some natural gas field break open a valve, light it up, and have some very loud horn operating blowing consistently. There has to be a warning siren around. Walkers will be attracted to the horn and follow it. They'll eventually see the fire, walk into it, and voila... destroyed Walker. Since now we know Walkers are attracted to fire, I can see plenty of ways to handle them... that's if they keep to their own rules.