Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Highly doubtful that any serious operational capability exists.
Just because it is said to be, does not mean that it is.
It has never had an opetrational, full-up system live fire test out into any ocean attempting to hit a manuevering sea vessel. Much less into any serious ECM environment.
Lots of white papers, lots of missile trucks rolling around, a few static firing of some missile into the desert at a static target...but not one, full-up operational, live fire test against a manuevering vessel at sea.
This single fact speaks volumes over all the white papers, all the research papers, and all of the "chatter," that has gone on about this system for years.
When such an operational test is conducted successfully, and documentd as a success...and then repeated numerous times...get back to me. Until then, I view the entiore system as a very strong "Sun Tsu" campaign to attempt to get the US and its allies to not use the assets that are their strength...and it is a very sophisticated operation, IMHO, to do that.
Even then, the system itself, untested and unproven, then would fly directly into the teeth of the strongest defense the US has for its carriers and that is the AEGIS system which, contrary to the DF-21D, has been proven countelss times to be able to live-fire, operationally intercept ballistic missiles.
Now who should I trust more you who has no access whatsoever to Intel or Admiral Willard who has the full weight of PACOM and US navy at his disposal
Both Admiral Willard and Gen Chen Bingde the then Chinese defense minister confirm the existence of ASBM.
Here is excerpt of the interview with Asahi Shimbun
Q [Yoichi Kato]: Let me go into China’s anti-access/area denial (A2/AD) capabilities. What is the current status of China’s anti-ship ballistic missile development, and how close is it to actual operational deployment?
A [Admiral Robert F. Willard, Commander, U.S. Pacific Command]: The anti-ship ballistic missile system in China has undergone extensive testing. An analogy using a Western term would be “initial operational capability,” whereby it has—I think China would perceive that it has—an operational capability now, but they continue to develop it. It will continue to undergo testing, I would imagine, for several more years.
Q: China has achieved IOC?
A: You would have to ask China that, but as we see the development of the system, their acknowledging the system in open press reporting and the continued testing of the system, I would gauge it as about the equivalent of a U.S. system that has achieved IOC.
Not all the weapon system need to be tested I can think of Nuclear weapon that is tested using computer simulation Now did you dare to say, that nuclear does not exist or it won't work properly, because it was never actually tested?
In fact most modern weapon system are tested component by component. So that when they assemble the the system they have high confidence that the system will work
And don't tell me that Admiral Willard try to hype the Chinese threat in order to get defense budget because if he does He definitely failed miserably because irrespective of the hype the Naval budget will be cut So no there is no need to hype up the threat
China have myriad of intermediate ballistic missile since 1960's and they are the only one beside US that can hit missile in midcourse using ground launched missile
China has extensive reconnaissance satellite and other sensor in place to find and track CBG
Compare to hitting missile in midcourse the problem of finding tracking and disable a slow moving CBG is child play.
So despite your opinion. It doesn't change the fact that ASBM is in operation and will get better as the year progress
Another thing all those paper are not BS they are open for scrutiny if it make sense and open for criticism by the scientific peer. Sofar nobody dismiss it as BS In fact there are high regard for the accuracy and ingenuity of Chinese scientist
Don't count on those PAC 3 SAM they are never tested again the real condition. Sofar all the test are against the most primitive missile like Scud
Here what Arthur Erickson has to say
China’s DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) is no longer merely an aspiration. Beijing has successfully developed, partially tested and deployed in small numbers the world’s first weapons system capable of targeting the last relatively uncontested U.S. airfield in the Asia-Pacific from long-range, land-based mobile launchers. This airfield is a moving aircraft carrier strike group (CSG), which the Second Artillery, China’s strategic missile force, now has the capability to at least attempt to disable with the DF-21D in the event of conflict. With the ASBM having progressed this far, and representing the vanguard of a broad range of potent asymmetric systems, Beijing probably expects to achieve a growing degree of deterrence with it.
None of this should be surprising. Numerous data points have been emerging from Chinese sources as well as official statements and reports from Washington and Taipei for years now, available to anyone willing to connect them. They offer an instructive case study not only to military analysts, but also to anyone conducting analysis under conditions of imperfect information. For instance, relevant Chinese publications multiplied throughout the late 1990s, dipped in a classic “bathtub-shaped” pattern from 2004 to 2006 at a critical point in ASBM development and component testing, and rose sharply thereafter as China headed towards initial deployment beginning in 2010. China is always more transparent in Chinese, and analysts must act accordingly. …
What is perhaps most surprising is the foreign skepticism and denial that has accompanied China's ASBM. Again, however, this sort of disbelief is nothing new.
At the close of World War II, the following editorial appeared: "The ghost of Billy Mitchell should haunt those who crucified him a few years back when he so openly declared that no nation could win the next war without air superiority and advocated that the US
As for supporting infrastructure, on January 3, 2011, Vice Admiral David Dorsett stated that the PLA "likely has the space-based intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR), command and control structure, and ground processing capabilities necessary to support DF-21D employment... [and also] employs an array of non-space based sensors and surveillance assets capable of providing the targeting information".
Two days later, Dorsett added: "The Chinese have tested the DF-21D missile system over land a sufficient number of times that the missile system itself is truly competent and capable. ... they have ISR, they have sensors onboard ship that can feed into the targeting aspect of it. So could they start to employ that and field it operationally? Yes, I think so."
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