Moderated Taiwan Invasion Wargame

A high alert has been issued to the PLAAF command: the Americans are threatning to intervene in the Taiwan Strait Crisis. The PLAAF now has two objectives: continue to target military installations inside Taiwan and help defend the homeland against any air attacks by American forces. My S-300 and even some S-400 hundred batteries (I have only several S-400 batteries since China started to take deliveries of such missiles from Russia earlier this year) are positioned around major cities, C4ISR assets, and airfields. My FT-2000 and FT-2000A's are coupled with the S-300 and 400 batteries as to protect from any jamming aircraft the Americans may employ. My AWAC aircraft are on full alert and satellites are watching the carriers every step of the way. I have many BVR capable aircraft and the less sophisticted ones (the J-8 series for example) are going to be used primarily as interceptors. The Su-27's and Su-30's along with the J-10's will be used against Taiwan, but I move several squadrons away from the Taiwan front and position them to protect sensitive installations inside the homeland. Even though there will be less planes available for the Taiwan front, Taiwan's military has been crippled and reduced to a purely defensive force (and they aren't able to conduct a proper defense either since many of there SAMs have been targeted and destroyed by my Kh-59's).

I begin to move some M-11 ballistic missiles away from the Indian border and start to have them shipped to the Taiwan strait thus adding more available resources. I have no fear that India will become involved in this conflict so that is why I have made such a move.

I've got some news:
A task force of Royal Australian Navy (see more at and ) including HMAS Manoora and HMAS Kanimbla, the 5,800 tonnes heavy lift ship HMAS Tobruk and all six LCHs is starting ouf of Darwin, Cairns and Sydney today.
They are escortet by 5 RAN ANZACs and 3 Adelaide Class Guided Missile Frigates (FFG).

The Australian Gov. say, they are on the way to SUBIC BAY, Philippines to to
- meet a task group of the Royal New Zealand Navy Fleet

- support the evacuation of Commonwealth Citizenz out of Taiwan.

The Philippinian Gov. declared to open SUBIC BAY for SAR operations in the conflict.
There are conferences between the President of the US, Australian, New Zealand and EU Gov. and the Pres. of the Philippines (bargain the price of opening SUBIC BAY for military uses).

EDIT: HOT NEWS from NEW ZEALAND:
F77 Te Kaha, F111 Te Mana and A11 Endeavour (III) Fleet Replenishment Ship, the new Multi-Role Vessel and the new Offshore Patrol Vessel
ar leaving Devonport Naval Base, Auckland.

im not too concerned about foreign ships evecuatiing taiwanese citiznes, for i too am eager to avoid civilian casuaties. but just as a precaution, i will dispach a small flotilla of warships headed by 167 into taiwanese ports. they will inspect all incomming ships, and maintain order in the ports. this is to ensure no "contraband" is smuggled into taiwan.

also, the ccp high command decrees taiwanese sea lanes and ports are closed for shipping(as china still owns taiwan, so it owns the sea lanes). any ship entering will be boarded or blasted out of the water.

now, its time to call in my own cbg. i assemble a carrier task force made up of varyag, 2 52cs, 2 51cs, 2 54as, 2 new large replenishment ships, and 6 of my new yuans sporting aip. my flagship is the varyag. i sail out north east to meet the american fleet.

meanwhile, i have phoned admiral popov of the russian pacific fleet. he will send in a group made up of kutznesov, 3 sovremennys, one kirov, one slava, 4 amurs, and a victor III. backfires take off from both russian and chinese bases to attack the american cvbg.

1) the Varyag will not be OPERATIONAL in 2008, certainly not as something able to conduct fixed wing flight operations and certainly not an offensive weapons platform. With a little bit of luck, it will be able to proceed under it's own power (are any engines installed yet??) to get to another harbor for systems integration or another coat of paint. As accelerated as China may be in devloping and building ships, they can't maintain the same pace with a carrier. Apples and Oranges...

2) Carrier capable aircraft - see above.

3) Carrier capable pilots - see above.

4) Do ya think Admiral Popov has the political cajones to bypass the rest of the Russian political system and sortie his fleet (which oddly would not include the Admiral K as it is in a different sea connected to a different ocean)

5) Your SAG (as the Varyag ain't no where near done) would be wisest to sail under land based air cover....

Not trying to be a butthead, but a dash of realism....

Thanks....

hey, this is just to have some fun, so relax. the forum already agreed that the varyag is in service.

lets pretend china and russia have a defence pact, stating if one country is in conflict, the other is obliged to send aid immediately is requested.

MIGleader said:

hey, this is just to have some fun, so relax. the forum already agreed that the varyag is in service.

lets pretend china and russia have a defence pact, stating if one country is in conflict, the other is obliged to send aid immediately is requested.

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If this scenario actually happens, I'm packing my bags and going to Baghdad for safety.

Seacraft

you understimate the power of the DARK SIDE

china has around 700 m9/11 in 1997 not 2008 by that time china will have around 1500 missiles!!!!

also they will have 2*051d plus a Slava class crusier and atlest 1 052d ready not counting the improve 054 frigates

there will also be 4 yuan and 12 song judgeing from their production rate

additional J10/11 will also be built plus many more JH-7 and maybe backfires from russia

MIGleader said:

hey, this is just to have some fun, so relax. the forum already agreed that the varyag is in service.

lets pretend china and russia have a defence pact, stating if one country is in conflict, the other is obliged to send aid immediately is requested.

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Well, then if it's both fictional and less than realistic :nana:

The president has decided, with full the concurrance of Congress, to engage in the defence of Taiwan and has authorized the Pentagon to plan and prosecute key military targets in PRC Military Districts directly engaged in action against the democratic people of the ROC, the districts facing Japan, and select command and control facilities elsewhere on the Chinese mainland necessary to facilitate the defense of Taiwan if demands for returning to the status quo are not met.

In a Video Conference with numerous allied heads of state, inluding those from Germany, Poland, Japan, France, Spain, Italy, the United Kingdon, India, Austrailia, South Korea, Vietnam, the Phillipines, and Thailand, full aggreement is obtained to demand a complete withdrawal of all forces from the strait at midnight, local time, in approximately 12 hours. While not are all in agreement to pursue military means if necessary, all agree hostilities must end immediately.

IN a rare show of unity, the leaders of France, Germany, the UK, and the US will meet in New York at the United Nations to protest the current state of affairs.

In the event that hostilites are not averted, the Pentagon is mobilizing numerous key assets and implementing first stages of pre planned "war plans".

SpaceCommand authorizes the readying of 4 Ke-Asat launch vehicles and orders the completion of 4 more anti satellite missiles.

Additional B-52H and B-ONEs deploy from Syess and Barksdale on the continental US to Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean and to Anderson AFB on Guam.

The USS Jimmy Carter has entered the southern portion of the strait and the new Virginia Class SSN, the North Carolina is "creeping" silently south west towards the strait at 18 knots.

The F22 Raptors are flying to Elmendorf AFB, Alaska, for their one layover before continuing to Kadena AFB. Swuadrons of F-15C fighters and F-15E Strike Eagles are enroute Kadena from Hawaii. Tanker refueling assets are being pulled from other theaters as reserve tanker units are called up stateside.

The President is sending 4 Arleigh Burke destroyers into the Taiwan strait to "observe" the Chinese Flotilla. These ships will not be "boarded".

The Ohio class SSGN, already on station somewhere east of Taiwan will soon be joined by her sister and former ballisitc missile submarine, Georgia with an additional 154 Tomahawk, TLAMC/D, Tactial Tomahawks bringing the theater total tomahawk inventory to nearly 500 cruise missiles.

Continued patrols of F15C fighter aircraft from Kadena have had several radar and one visual contact with PLANAF aircraft without incident.

darth sidious said:

Seacraft

you understimate the power of the DARK SIDE

china has around 700 m9/11 in 1997 not 2008 by that time china will have around 1500 missiles!!!!

also they will have 2*051d plus a Slava class crusier and atlest 1 052d ready not counting the improve 054 frigates

there will also be 4 yuan and 12 song judgeing from their production rate

additional J10/11 will also be built plus many more JH-7 and maybe backfires from russia

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My Dear Sith Lord, so not underestimate the power of the Jedi Knight :rofl:

Is the Slava legit? or is this also for the not so serious, overnight procurement and training and equipment of new ships? And where does the PLAN find the officers and crew for all of these brandy spanky new ships? Not a knock by any means but you are adding a lot of new and significantly more complicated systems all across the board. With all of these new systems there probably is not enough a competent core of officers and men to train the trainer across the fleet and bring to wartine status?

Your new shiny surface fleet is a tougher nut to crack b ut a nut nonetheless and simply shouldn't venture too far from home in this scenario - much safer inside the strait...

The J10 does not have the effective range to venture too far offshore, and yourt JH7s (assming the few As that you have online) will need something with longer legs to escort them.


perhaps you will need the dark side of the force. :nana:

Und Sczepan - Meine Duetsch ist SEHR schlecht - Ich habe so viel vergessen. Aber, diese tag Ich habe dreizehn fischen anglen aber alles war zu kleine fur essen...

Hope that made sense - haven't used my Deutsh since drei und achtzig

LOL

you do know about a third of the IDF and many of the F-16/marige-2000 are in storage because of the lack of skilled pilots if we count forces by training then its taiwan that I am warry about

the slava shares many componets with the soves witch china has been operating from 2000 so trained officers can be transfed

the J-10 can be refuelled in flight


also you forget the "assians mace" weapon the anti-carrier balastic missile

in the end the DARK SIDE will triumph