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Patchwork_Chimera said:
Weren't you the guy saying that we were gonna force Taiwan to declare independence and "bring war to China" before the end of August last year? (and didn't you say you'd leave the forum if we didn't?)

Maybe it's just the built in Prius mind control, but you seem to make a lot of very confident apocalyptic predictions, few of which seem to pan out quite as promised. Have you considered a career in the short selling industry?
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Now is the time for Xi to make announcement to the world, retroactive sanctions against America for crimes against humanity and for all the onslaught of sanctions US placed on China since 2018.. tit for tac..

For starters, rare earth ban, nationalize Apple and Tesla factories in China... no more shipment of Walmart goods or Amazon stuffs...hard trade decouple, those useless dollars will never be paid back anyway, time for China to cut its loses... besides China export to US only accounts for 3% of GDP, but if shelves on Walmart go empty for 3 weeks thats gonna make Ferguson roits look like a peace rally...

At the end of the day the only laws are the laws of physics itself, all is fair in love and war and why should China abide by Guardrails of rules when the reigning hegemony had been doing a nonfiction version of Jack London's parallel invasion on China *cough cough* followes up by the recent kinetic explosion of Nordstream pipelines, in both instances using reverse false flag to blame /frame the victim itself... To mention nothing of making a mockery of the Shanghai communique, willlfully sending armed forces onto Chinese soil whilsts crying hysteria about an errand weather balloon. At some point enough is enough, and I surmise China has already crossed that Rubicon

If US wants to go to hot kinetic war, then China will let the enemy bring the fight to its shores...

Its do or die, even Steve Bannon figured out at the end of the day only one system will be left standing, and as Xi recently said China must have the courage to fight the good fight. All humanity and life on earth depends on what China does next now... its gonna be the end of Karl Rove's little rant
 
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Chevalier said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634588185169895424

The Anglos are realising they can’t win against china and now want to go back to the days before they tried to strangle Chinese development. Personally I don’t think Chinese ought to let up on the pressure- when people have made no secret of their desire to impoverish you and your kin and to prevent you from building a better life for yourself, nothing less than the steel gauntlet of karma bitch slapping them will suffice.

Anglos realise now with the harbinger of SVB and the run on US treasuries that they need china more than china needed them.
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Have they finally arrived at the acceptance stage yet?
 
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measuredingabens

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Patchwork_Chimera said:
I mean, I haven't exactly hidden which side I'm on lol.

As a US citizen, working in DOD-land no less, it should be understandable that I want the US to do as well as possible. As a result, I do indeed consider China to be our #1 competitor. After all, I wouldn't be so disaffected about our (many) failings if I didn't want us to do better.

With that said, just because we're rivals doesn't mean that I have any ill-will towards the PRC. I personally believe competition is healthy, and that by having another country around who can actually punish our failures, we are more incentivized to innovate and better ourselves. Ideally, we would be able to achieve a peaceful but competitive co-existence, wherein both nations feel "pushed" to explore more, discover more, invent more, etc. than the other side. I believe that such a dynamic would be the best outcome not only for us, but for CN as well. I don't even think such a dynamic requires animosity between the sides.

However, this is obviously not the reality that we're trending towards. Instead of taking measures to materially improve our position, we instead dump resources into the same senselessness that got us here, opting instead to take petty potshots at China's own efforts to improve theirs. As others have said, yes, CHIPS and other similar acts have been cobbled together as a response to CN initiatives. While I am entirely on board with them in principle, the efforts themselves are often ensnared in political showmanship, lobbying concessions, and bureaucratic red tape, resulting in little more than big promises, high costs, and little gain. It is going to take a lot more than just throwing money, tax breaks, and slogans at our problems to fix them; and unless we're wiling to take such measures, no amount of ankle-biting sanctions or histrionic headlines is going to stop you guys from surpassing us.

As a bit of an aside, since the DC-fellating think tankies et al. are the ones doing some of the worst damage, calling them out for their imbecilic shrieking is actually doing us a favor. Just one example of how you guys giving us a wake-up smack every now and again is beneficial (not to mention, probably highly cathartic for folks on the CN side - and rightfully so, given how we've treated it).
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It seems there's a distinctly reactive dynamic to policies on the US side as opposed to the proactive side on the part of China. Any commentary on how that came to be? Another question would be how you see the current overall professional discourse on China, I suppose. You've been pretty open about your grievances regarding the shortcomings of present public discourse re:China.
 
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5. The simple solution is for someone bigger to buy this bank, and recapitalize it, and that problem is solved.
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Its true the solution is technically that simple, but as always its way easier said than done. If people weren't willing to buy this bank's assets when it was on the verge of going under, what makes one think they'll buy it now? And how much will they buy it for? Even if a purchase is succesful, it'll only at most reimburse some of the lost funds. But many startups are inevitably going to go under anyways. And it remains to be seen if this'll spread to other banks involved in the tech industry.

But of course, we won't know for sure until the market opens on Monday.
 
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Witchhunter12 said:
Its true the solution is technically that simple, but as always its way easier said than done. If people weren't willing to buy this bank's assets when it was on the verge of going under, what makes one think they'll buy it now? And how much will they buy it for? Even if a purchase is succesful, it'll only at most reimburse some of the lost funds. But many startups are inevitably going to go under anyways. And it remains to be seen if this'll spread to other banks involved in the tech industry.

But of course, we won't know for sure until the market opens on Monday.
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JP Morgan already tried to help... it didnt worky
 
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Overbom

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solarz said:
I guess that confirms what most of us suspected.
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Based and redpilled. You can see from that comment that Patch is a real, non-NPC, human.

It has gotten very boring hearing all those fake official "competitor not opponent, not cold war, if only Xi left power" proclamations. Its very normal that a hegemon views a rising power as an enemy. Unfortunately we are full of PR these days and no one can say what is really happening.

I, for one, applaud him for saying it like it is
 
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horse

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Witchhunter12 said:
Its true the solution is technically that simple, but as always its way easier said than done. If people weren't willing to buy this bank's assets when it was on the verge of going under, what makes one think they'll buy it now? And how much will they buy it for? Even if a purchase is succesful, it'll only at most reimburse some of the lost funds. But many startups are inevitably going to go under anyways. And it remains to be seen if this'll spread to other banks involved in the tech industry.

But of course, we won't know for sure until the market opens on Monday.
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Glad that all these points are raised.

The straightforward reply, would be history is our guide.

What happened in 2008, the entire system shut down. No one would lend money, and without money, it shuts down. Therefore, the Fed came to the recuse, along with Pelosi, et al.

This time, it is only one bank.

The Fed can give emergency funds and then the bank may have to find a buyer. So if they were able to save the system in 2008, it's only a bank this time.

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What happened last time in 2008, Henry Paulson had to decide which investment banks he would allow to fail, IIRC. He let Lehman Bros. fail (because in his Wall Street career he worked at a rival firm), then when all heck broke loose, the system seized up, and Paulson had to broker a deal that saved everyone else when the system collapsed.

What seems like what is going on this time, is more containable, and solvable, relatively quickly.

What is the interesting question is what will the Fed do about interest rates? Keep pushing it up, maybe more banks will feel it? Rates were at zero, then jacked up because of that, cough cough, special military operations. Business, like banks, are like people, and we all have to adapt to radical changes to our environment. Some cope better than others. This rich people's bank, too soft, went under, lol.
 
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