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taxiya

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Temstar said:
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US is still going on about lethal aid to Russia.

Personally I think it would be silly not to have that card in your hand, particularly on the eve of that peace plan. Wang Yi might be in Moscow to hash out the final details to make sure those aid can reach the front smoothly. Notice how many meeting Wang Yi is having there and how little we know of what was actually talked about. Putin even used his long table side ways with Wang Yi.

Guanqi gang had a good point: if lethal aid gets the go ahead the most obvious sign we will see is all pro-Ukraine voices on Chinese internet instantly silenced. Be on the watch out for this.
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This is the first Op-ed I've seen on Guancha about China-Ukraine relations in a while, a clear sign of which way the wind is blowing.
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Very good article. Just quoting part of the article to illustrate the kind of Chinese who is pro-Ukraine today.

对于中国为何在俄乌冲突中采取这一立场，广大国人都颇为关注。但自从冲突爆发以来，有一种类似“乌克兰恩情论”“中国应当报恩”的声音，一直在华人互联网、舆论界有一定市场，特别是被部分怀揣着各种目的网民所利用，煽动国内舆论的对立撕裂，比如包括但不限于
  1. 朴素同情乌克兰人民的遭遇，感情泛滥(pointless compassionate).the same kind of people who advocated importing refugees some years ago.
  2. 由于历史恩怨看不惯当下中俄战略伙伴关系， "suicidal nationalist". The one prefers to die for yesterday than live for today.
  3. 由于俄乌冲突影响自身工作生活，单纯对俄罗斯或普京不满，selfish people who is willing to sell their mother for profit.
  4. 以及一些网络“1450”等等。True 1450
Category 1, 2 and 3 are primarily self brainwashed by western or Taiwan media, they are effectively doing the same job as 1450, therefore differentiating them from 4 is kind of redundant IMO.
 
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Biscuits

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But don't you understand, Pelosi made a visit and gave speeches. It's a huge symbolic and media victory!

As for all of that real world stuff happening on the ground, what does that matter/have anything to do with me?

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didn't she just immediately get purged the moment she came back and is now fully gone from any formal or informal positions of power?

FairAndUnbiased said:
Nope, Taiwan had much more freedom of action in the strait before, now their control area is limited to the island of Taiwan as demonstrated during the uncontested firing of missiles over Taiwan and into Taiwan claimed waters.
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this, it hurt Biden's plan more than helped it. The intention might be to encourage other Asian countries to support US revanchism, when all it achieved is moving the PLA into much faster response range and scare Asia that an outsider is coming and starting a war between 2 nuclear powers.

not hard to see why Pelosi was maneuvered out so quickly after such a misstep. When even that shiny SK collaborator chief executive refused to meet her, it was a premonition of her spooking the rest of her government and becoming a pariah.
 
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Finally some in MSM are seeing what we have been seeing for a long while here.
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First, Asia Times is not mainstream Western media.

Second, the article spends 99% of its time talking about Russia vs. NATO. That is not a world war.

Only if China gets involved, is it a world war. There is still no sign that China will get involved outside of maybe selling weapons.
 
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I hope China announces something similar to the "Aaliyah" programme of Israel granting citizenship to all the people with Chinese heritage. I'm done with this litigious, ridiculous, racist, absurdly inflated, dying island with nothing to offset these flaws but bad food and worse weather :(
 
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bettydice said:
"Don't you Nancy Pelosi dare to visit Taiwan without our permission."

"Okay, we landed in Taiwan so what will you do in return?"

"Nothing. Don't you dare to visit Taiwan."

China says "Don't you dare to supply weapons to Taiwan." "Don't you dare to deploy troops in Taiwan."

So what will China do? So far, China has done nothing but bitching.
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China took what was supposed to be a flitting situation and turned it into an opportunity to normalize sustained military activity near Taiwan for Pelosi's visit. When the US found out, Pelosi said, "We can't allow China to use this as an excuse to normalize military excursions around Taiwan." And then China kept doing it and they never mentioned that again. It reminds me of Rex Tillerson saying that the US can't allow China to have access to the man-made islands in the SCS. Then China kept going and building and he shut up. The US quickly exhausted all its options after losing the trade war then started the doomed tech war and since then, they've done nothing but superficial trolling to make China angry as China makes real progress. And sometimes, even that backfires when China flips the script on them turning even their harmless trolling into an opportunity to advance China's interests.
 
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