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It's not really about collective security per se that pisses China off, but the fact that collective security only triggers in limited specific circumstances, (e.g. only when there is any existential threat to Japan as a result of attack on close partner) It's a huge leap (lie) to conclude Taiwan attack is anywhere an existential threat to Japan, so Sanae saying this is provocative to say the least. It's say "theoretically, we can interpret send JSDF into Taiwan contingency as it threatens the survival of Japan" which is remilitarization mindset that does need to be put in its place.

If conflict with Japan escalates to the point of war, China should strike US to do real damage because Japan is just expendable cannon fodder which the US has a lot of around the world.

_killuminati_ said:

If conflict with Japan escalates to the point of war, China should strike US to do real damage because Japan is just expendable cannon fodder which the US has a lot of around the world.

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Are you assuming US also fighting or US staying out? Cause if stays out, China has no reason to fight them. China would happily destroy Japan while US watches from the sidelines.

If US joins, then Japan is a sideshow and US is the main event. Defeating US is the first order of business.

On a lighter note, butthurt jealous American tech bros are getting ratio’d for talking smack about Chinese robots and getting proven wrong, only to double down harder and reveal the insecure wet rags that they are.

re Japan, the fate of the Jurchen Jin dynasty is in their future for their version of the Jingkang Incident.
addirionally, we can draw a parallel between Takaichi and Tsai ING-wen in being childless cat ladies or adopting their partners children, these women have no blood stake for the future so will happily burn the nation down for immediate current life rewards. The very epitome of globohomo politicians.

hifisnow said:

Again, This guy is a typical anti-losing war Japanese...... Please read my comment at #137439 Miscellaneous News

BTW I have found that western (or rather outside of China) "Leftists" always have a particularly rosy view of Japan. They want to believe the majority of Japanese people are good. I can't blame them since Japanese cultural exports are real and powerful. (Myself wanted to learn Japanese because of their stuff like Gundam. But learning more about actual historical and current Japanese ironically made me hate them to my guts......)

But in a just world the people of the world would learn about their terrifying crimes as much as nazis. (Because they are at least as bad as nazis.) and drop this stupid affinity. Can't give it much hope though....... I guess as long as China is doing its own stuff in its own pace, the correct view of the world and history will spread, one day.

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Japanese cultural exports like animation was better when leftists produced the majority of content. DBZ, Dorumon, etc.

Phead128 said:

It's not really about collective security per se that pisses China off, but the fact that collective security only triggers in limited specific circumstances, (e.g. only when there is any existential threat to Japan as a result of attack on close partner) It's a huge leap (lie) to conclude Taiwan attack is anywhere an existential threat to Japan, so Sanae saying this is provocative to say the least. It's say "theoretically, we can interpret send JSDF into Taiwan contingency as it threatens the survival of Japan" which is remilitarization mindset that does need to be put in its place.

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‘Collective defence’ pisses China off for two reasons. Firstly, it will only ever be applied so that Japan can join in when their American masters attack China.

Secondly, it inverts reality to paint American and Japanese aggression against China as a defensive act, which is particularly repulsive since that was the same bullshit Japan used to justify its invasion of China nearly a century ago.

China is giving Japan formal notice that any such bullshitary will result in the most serve of consequences for Japan, and it’s repeated reference of post WWII treaties and UN articles is as blunt and explicit a warning as Beijing will ever give that if Japan does involve itself in another war of aggression against China, then China will be going for the full Nuremberg style denazification sanitation of Japanese society that has been overdue for the last 80 years.

tamsen_ikard said:

Are you assuming US also fighting or US staying out? Cause if stays out, China has no reason to fight them. China would happily destroy Japan while US watches from the sidelines.

If US joins, then Japan is a sideshow and US is the main event. Defeating US is the first order of business.

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I do hope that nothing will come of this diplomatic kerfuffle with a disposable cucked-vassal like Japan......but perhaps this "chicken"needs to be killed in order to scare the "TACO-monkey" if it actually attacks China/kills Chinese but certainly lots of diplomatic angry words and national Chinese rage along with economic boycott-(the usual stuff) but no over /wrong reaction.

China regards the reunification of Taiwan as an internal affair. When and how Taiwan is reunified is solely China's own business, and other countries have no right to interfere.

While China steadily advances its reunification efforts, Japan—the historical root cause of the Taiwan issue—has declared that any Chinese military action against Taiwan would pose a threat to Japan's national security.

This is an obvious hypocritical statement. Its meaning requires no convoluted interpretation, as it implies Japan intends to intervene militarily in the Taiwan issue. Should China launch military operations against Taiwan, the Japanese Self-Defense Forces would “have the right” to attack the PLA, or even organize a US-Japan-South Korea coalition to launch “defensive” strikes. Sanae Takaichi's remarks are, in essence, a military threat to interfere with China's reunification efforts.

siegecrossbow said:

Japanese cultural exports like animation was better when leftists produced the majority of content. DBZ, Dorumon, etc.

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Yeah, what a downgrade, these days you better assume anything out of Japan is written by closet (or proud) fascists. There is a joke on Cnet that all the volunteer translators for Japanese shows and animations are the hardest core wolf warriors of wolf warriors you will ever find, LoL.

I think China will give the priority to face any US interventions, the head of the snake, then other countries will be a second priority and can be dealt with in a longer timeframe. I mean after you kick the US, then you can have your time with Japan or any other country that helped the US to attack you like the Philippine.

And no country will try to get involved without being sure that the US will intervene by itself in a big manner, so the core and the head of the threat is the US and should be prioritized.

And I want to note that Japan is a very serious power in general, but in the context of facing China, especially in a Taiwan contingency they're inconsequential.