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Virtup

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Why is Japan so backwards compared to China when it comes to new tech? Hell, even laggards like Italy are now way ahead of Japan in terms of the EV transition. I'm trying to understand what happened to Japan. It's not money. It's a cultural issue.
That's what an inverted population pyramid does to a country. For some reason, the effect seems to be more dramatic in asian countries than elsewhere (maybe because it is compounded with culture?). China should really watch out for its demographics. A reduced population is not a problem but an inverted population pyramid is due to its impact on economy and especially the general mentality within a nation (conservatism).
 
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I will agree with you that Surface ships are still very useful including aircraft carriers AT THE PRESENT DAY. But that's because surface ship air defense is still quite capable and anti-ship missiles haven't been proven to be unstoppable. My argument with you started when you said Carriers will never be obsolete. This is where the disagreement lies. I am not sure surface ships will be that much useful in the future if anti-ship missile tech keeps getting so much better. Hypersonics, manuverable, stealth missiles could become unstoppable for even the best Air Defense in the future. That will be the end of surface ships. Whether that happens or not is still up in the air. But we cannot make statement like "carriers will never be obsolete".
There is video i already posted in Russian military thread Ukranian airforce official saying Oniks missile is unstoppable with current air defenses. and as far i observe from Arabic media Russia has not used more than 4 Oniks lunches at a time in single direction. so there is no such thing as saturated attack.
but if there is saturated attack combined with airborne electronic attack from bombers most of ships will struggle to hit a even a single one.

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Is Ukraine shooting down Onyx missiles?​

Unfortunately, not yet. At the end of September, after another large-scale strike on Odessa, Air Force spokesman Yuriy Ignat explained why the specifics of the Onyx missiles make them so dangerous for Ukraine.
He recalled that these missiles are launched from the Bastion coastal anti-ship complex, and they are virtually impossible to shoot down.

" Their flight trajectory can be different - as programmed by the enemy. The missile moves at an altitude of over 10 km and can cover a distance of about 600 km. If it is already descending, then immediately before the impact, or halfway to the impact [to an altitude of 10-15 m] - in this way it is pressed close to the water surface and it is virtually impossible to shoot it down. In addition, the missile has supersonic speed. We understand that it is virtually impossible to shoot it down at such a speed and so low," explained Yuri Ignat.
 

manqiangrexue

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This seems like a fun game.
Can somebody explain the scoring to me? First time watcher. We went into sudden death tied. I get that.

Then sudden death included 2 rounds where the American chases the Chinese. Both rounds were very late game catch. The third round, the Chinese chased the American and it was a mid-game catch... and then China won? How does that scoring work? If they were counting catch times, then shouldn't the Americans have another round to try and escape since China had 2?

By the way, great sportsmanship on both sides. Very good vibes.
 
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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has reoriented the U.S. military to prioritize deterring China’s seizure of Taiwan and shoring up homeland defense by “assuming risk” in Europe and other parts of the world, according to a secret internal guidance memo that bears the fingerprints of the conservative Heritage Foundation, including some passages that are nearly word-for-word duplications of text published by the think tank last year.

The document, known as the Interim National Defense Strategic Guidance and marked “secret/no foreign national” in most passages, was distributed throughout the Defense Department in mid-March and signed by Hegseth. It outlines, in broad and sometimes partisan detail, the execution of President Donald Trump’s vision to prepare for and win a potential war against Beijing and defend the United States from threats in the “near abroad,” including Greenland and the Panama Canal.

The first Trump administration and the Biden administration characterized China as the greatest threat to the U.S. and postured the force to prepare for and deter conflict in the Pacific region. But Hegseth’s guidance is extraordinary in its description of the potential invasion of Taiwan as the exclusive animating scenario that must be prioritized over other potential dangers — reorienting the vast U.S. military architecture toward the Indo-Pacific region beyond its homeland defense mission.


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Here is the archived version of the article from Washington Post.
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Some of the arms manufacturers fantasize to get rich in a war with China.
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The US and its European minions can't even defeat Russia, as the article from New York Times reveals inadvertently below. Yet the US daydreams of winning a war against China.
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Iran's nuclear facilities are well concealed underground. Long-termly, bombing those will only harden Iran's resolve to develop nuclear bombs and push it further into the arms of China and Russia. It will be another instance of "do nothing, win" for China.
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What is Hegseth trying to say? He really thinks that Japanese have forgot who killed 200,000 of their civilian brethren in atomic bombings?
 

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Why is Japan so backwards compared to China when it comes to new tech? Hell, even laggards like Italy are now way ahead of Japan in terms of the EV transition. I'm trying to understand what happened to Japan. It's not money. It's a cultural issue.
Don’t know about cultural issues, but basically Japanese tech industry has been striking out on the big trends since the 00’s. They just kept making the wrong bets.

CD/DVD - clung onto physical media when MP3/MP4 was taking root. Basically devastated the entire Japanese CE industry built around it when combined with the below.

CRT/LCD/Plasma - Actually the leader in display tech until they made two huge miscalculations. Japanese companies continued to develop CRT for monitors, while Koreans went all in for small LCDs. Devastated the CRT market in basically 5 years. For large formats, went for Plasma and did not invest in OLED. Again Koreans ate their lunch, then Chinese delivered coup de grace by taking all low to upper mid market for LCD.

FOMA (3G) - Actually deployed one of the first 3G networks. Early 00’s had many articles about the “futuristic” Japanese cell phones which had apps and games etc. Japanese network operators were still confident they could hold up against the iPhone (they did not). Basically relegated NTT to network operator rather than telecom equipment provider.

EV/NiMH battery - again, Japan was the leader in Li-Ion initially, most laptops in the late 90’s used Japanese Li-Ion cells. However, Toyota didn’t think Li-Ion could be used safely in automotive applications (In fact they still use NiMH), and the entire Japanese industry followed. Elon Musk would prove this to be a bad bet. Toyota followed this up with investing in Hydrogen (and again convinced the government and the rest of the industry, which they basically own), which has been a failure. To be fair on the Hydrogen idea, I thought it was definitely the future in the mid 00’s. However, what changed was the mass adoption of smartphones which drove down the cost of Li-Ion cells and huge research put into increasing the energy density.
 

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People having rose tinted glasses on Iran when Iran is also a bullshit third world mentality like nation. If they were China's ally, they would have shifted to 100% Chinese supplies, goods and currency for trade already. Even Israel has fully shifted to Chinese autos majority, yet Iran would rather drive outdated western garbage. Any nation who would rather use something because it is western is an ideological western supremacist. At least Israel is an honest open nazi that buys high quality goods for what they are, while western supremacist refuse to use China's brand out of pure ideology fervor.
You don't know what you're talking about. Iran doesn't use western cars, they make their own. Some recent models are even based on Chinese designs and/or parts. But giving up their own industry to import from China would be madness

When Trump imposed maximum pressure sanctions last time, China abandoned the contracts in Iran it had signed. Even today, it's hard for Iran to import Chinese tech because Chinese companies obey American sanctions, especially since the Huawei drama. Nobody will completely follow the Chinese trade ecosystem if China just follows American sanctions.
 

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Translating that to the modern world, Japan has no fundamental cultural advantage in a setting that demands economic and commercial dynamism. And their traditional advantage in manufacturing was eroded by the rise of South Korea, Taiwan, and China. Couple all of this with demographics failure and you have the recipe for a rigid, hierarchical, conservative society (typical of warrior cultures) ruled by dinosaurs who're obsessed with order and duty and just doing what they know. Consequently all their ambitious young people - the few who are left - are busy looking for jobs outside of Japan, and in doing so, taking away what little capacity for innovation they have left.
South Korea and Taiwan will lose out too, they currently are quite strong in Semiconductors because America allowed them to have the best technology while restricting China's, otherwise they have nothing over China. China has a stronger base and is more efficient every step of the way. South Korea and Japan's futures are quite bleak, they depend on imports making food and energy much more expensive and their biggest export industries such as auto has no future in the global market. The only things that's looking good for them right now is semiconductor/semiconductor manufacturing equipment export to China, and it's probably not going to last long before China overtakes them in those too. Taiwan is the lucky one since it can just rejoin China.
 

ismellcopium

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1. Anyone want to place their bets now on how many USN ships the Iranians will sink once this kicks off in May? I know hoping for a carrier is probably a bit much, but if they can bag one I'm getting blackout drunk. I'll take 10 or more CRUDES too. Keep in mind, Houthis aside, this is the first time since WW2 the USN has fought anyone who can shoot back.
2. I'm deeply sad there apparently won't be enough time for a taco jihad before this kicks off and distracts them. Or who knows, perhaps Trump regime will try to go after some cartel bosses to save face after a humiliation in the Gulf, and it'll still happen.
 

ficker22

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1. Anyone want to place their bets now on how many USN ships the Iranians will sink once this kicks off in May? I know hoping for a carrier is probably a bit much, but if they can bag one I'm getting blackout drunk. I'll take 10 or more CRUDES too. Keep in mind, Houthis aside, this is the first time since WW2 the USN has fought anyone who can shoot back.
2. I'm deeply sad there apparently won't be enough time for a taco jihad before this kicks off and distracts them. Or who knows, perhaps Trump regime will try to go after some cartel bosses to save face after a humiliation in the Gulf, and it'll still happen.
I deeply wish Iran grows some balls and act accordingly towards the current situation of theirs....

If kinetic or otherwise doesn't matter but if they idle, they end up a Hussein or Gaddafi


If they can't sink atleast one CSG they have given away their right to exist...
 
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