There is video i already posted in Russian military thread Ukranian airforce official saying Oniks missile is unstoppable with current air defenses. and as far i observe from Arabic media Russia has not used more than 4 Oniks lunches at a time in single direction. so there is no such thing as saturated attack.I will agree with you that Surface ships are still very useful including aircraft carriers AT THE PRESENT DAY. But that's because surface ship air defense is still quite capable and anti-ship missiles haven't been proven to be unstoppable. My argument with you started when you said Carriers will never be obsolete. This is where the disagreement lies. I am not sure surface ships will be that much useful in the future if anti-ship missile tech keeps getting so much better. Hypersonics, manuverable, stealth missiles could become unstoppable for even the best Air Defense in the future. That will be the end of surface ships. Whether that happens or not is still up in the air. But we cannot make statement like "carriers will never be obsolete".
but if there is saturated attack combined with airborne electronic attack from bombers most of ships will struggle to hit a even a single one.
Is Ukraine shooting down Onyx missiles?
Unfortunately, not yet. At the end of September, after another large-scale strike on Odessa, Air Force spokesman Yuriy Ignat explained why the specifics of the Onyx missiles make them so dangerous for Ukraine.
He recalled that these missiles are launched from the Bastion coastal anti-ship complex, and they are virtually impossible to shoot down.
" Their flight trajectory can be different - as programmed by the enemy. The missile moves at an altitude of over 10 km and can cover a distance of about 600 km. If it is already descending, then immediately before the impact, or halfway to the impact [to an altitude of 10-15 m] - in this way it is pressed close to the water surface and it is virtually impossible to shoot it down. In addition, the missile has supersonic speed. We understand that it is virtually impossible to shoot it down at such a speed and so low," explained Yuri Ignat.