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Bellum_Romanum

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It’s best to wait and see before making any assertions about what is happening. Something to keep in mind however is that the best spies never get found. Blatantly leaking high level intel for presstitute points seems counterproductive imo. Maybe the MSS is super incompetent which is why there are so many intel leaks or they are too good at their job which is why you never hear anything about them. Judging by how most global events have been favoring China, maybe it is the latter or maybe China is just incredibly lucky. Also, blatant corruption has never stopped the US’s bombastic rhetoric as it never even gets investigated. Chinese rhetoric is just always risk averse and I don’t think this has changed at all with or without these issues.
Lol I know, but I was just ranting and venting for the hell of it. I mean, to be flipping blunt, Chinese corruption investigators need not even reveal or suspend/investigate Adm.Dong Jun even if he's hypothetically speaking being corrupt to avoid embarrassing or causing to lose face to CHINA's enemies from within and abroad. Not to mention placing GenSec Xi along with his personnel decision making process and image in a pickle of embarrassment.

Yet, they went ahead and did it anyway, which can be interpreted that the government is ruthless when it comes to rooting out corruption; they are more than confident to replace anybody within the PLA upper echelon with another officer just as capable and ready to the job he's selected to do until further notice.
 

_killuminati_

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Israel will never get its reputation back no matter how much nonsense the Western MSM trump up.
Not sure about that. Nakba 1.0 was largely forgotten, and that was 70+ years ago. People have short memories these days. Americans, specifically, are quick to forget things. Just a couple years ago, they were "tired of war" (from Afghanistan and Iraq), and less than a year later, they were in full support of Ukraine War.

If the West continues to succeed in censoring Israeli atrocities, then the latter's reputation can be rebuilt. Telegram took a hit, TikTok might be banned. Twitter is still exposing Israel, but for how long?
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Israeli kicked out of parliament after castigating Netanyahu. "You killed 825 babies under age of 1"

I think the best place to station oreshnik missile system would be in Sakhalin island next to japan.
Do it Putin, do us all a solid one
Or Cuba

Just playing tough. US holds all (almost) the cards

79% of all Mexico's exports go to... America.
They export to China only 1.5% of their total exports..
That could change with tariffs.

Why the change? Was it bcoz Hzblh used more advanced missiles recently? Do they need to replenish arms? Trump effect? Internal? Will this materialize even if ops in G4za continue?
Update:
Israel retreating doesn't mean Hezbollah will cease attacks. Hezbollah attacks due to the invasion of Gaza. Unless there is a peace with Gaza, Hezbollah will continue firing.


 

iewgnem

Captain
Registered Member
Not sure about that. Nakba 1.0 was largely forgotten, and that was 70+ years ago. People have short memories these days. Americans, specifically, are quick to forget things. Just a couple years ago, they were "tired of war" (from Afghanistan and Iraq), and less than a year later, they were in full support of Ukraine War.

If the West continues to succeed in censoring Israeli atrocities, then the latter's reputation can be rebuilt. Telegram took a hit, TikTok might be banned. Twitter is still exposing Israel, but for how long?
________

Israeli kicked out of parliament after castigating Netanyahu. "You killed 825 babies under age of 1"


Or Cuba


That could change with tariffs.


Israel retreating doesn't mean Hezbollah will cease attacks. Hezbollah attacks due to the invasion of Gaza. Unless there is a peace with Gaza, Hezbollah will continue firing.


What the western public remember or forget doesnt matter anymore because the western population dont matter anymore.

The civilized world wont forget, but more importantly the winning side wont forget, and history is written by the winners
 

ZeEa5KPul

Brigadier
Registered Member
Something to keep in mind however is that the best spies never get found. Blatantly leaking high level intel for presstitute points seems counterproductive imo. Maybe the MSS is super incompetent which is why there are so many intel leaks or they are too good at their job which is why you never hear anything about them. Judging by how most global events have been favoring China, maybe it is the latter or maybe China is just incredibly lucky.
Offense in the spying game is much easier than defense; cultivating an asset is much easier than finding one, executing a cyberattack is much easier than stopping one. The Salt Typhoon hack - still ongoing - demonstrates that China can spy on any phone call on a US carrier at will.
 

Index

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Here's the article in full:

From the Financial Times:

"China has put its defence minister under investigation in the latest corruption-related scandal to hit the top of the People’s Liberation Army, according to current and former US officials familiar with the situation.

Admiral Dong Jun, who was named in December 2023 after his predecessor was fired for corruption, is being investigated as part of a broader probe into graft in the PLA, the US officials said.
He is the third consecutive serving or former defence minister to be investigated for alleged corruption.
Dong succeeded General Li Shangfu, who was ousted after just seven months in the job. Both men were appointed by President Xi Jinping.

The Financial Times was the first to report that US officials believed Li was under investigation for corruption. Li had succeeded Wei Fenghe who was also placed under investigation for corruption after he had retired from the role.
The US official said Xi was conducting a wave of investigations into the PLA that had ensnared Dong. It remains unclear what kind of corruption allegations he is facing.

China’s embassy in Washington declined to comment.

The news comes a week after Dong attended an Asian defence meeting in Laos at which he refused to meet US defence secretary Lloyd Austin — which Austin described as “unfortunate”. The two men had first met in Singapore in May at the IISS Shangri-La Dialogue defence forum in the first significant minister-level engagement between the two militaries since November 2022.
China’s defence ministry blamed the US for the rebuff, saying Washington was “solely responsible” because it had recently approved a package of weapons for Taiwan, which for the first time included advanced surface-to-air missiles.

The dispute came days after US President Joe Biden and Xi met at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum in Peru and reiterated that their militaries should continue to hold direct communications.
China shut down military communication channels with the US in August 2022 after Nancy Pelosi became the first Speaker of the US House of Representatives to visit Taiwan in 25 years.

Xi agreed to reopen the channels when he held a summit with Biden in San Francisco a year ago, paving the way for Dong and Austin to meet.

The investigation into Dong suggests Xi is broadening his probe into corruption in the PLA. In addition to the removal of the defence minister’s two predecessors, China’s president had previously removed the two officers who headed the PLA Rocket Forces and oversaw China’s nuclear weapons programme.

In 2022, Xi also removed Qin Gang, who he had appointed as foreign minister, following reports of an extramarital affair with a Chinese woman in the US.
US military officers and officials have suggested investigations into the PLA were undermining Xi’s confidence in his military and raising questions about whether it would develop the capability to invade Taiwan by 2027 — a goal set by the Chinese president. (HORSESHIT AND BOLD FACE LIE).

Unlike the role of defence secretary in the US government, the defence minister in China is not the most powerful military figure in the Chinese system, which is headed by the vice-chairs of the Central Military Commission. Instead the defence minister serves as the international face of the PLA.

Earlier this year, Dong was not appointed to the CMC as expected, in an unusual development that raised questions about his tenure.

End of article.

**Italics and Bolded words are my personal comments.

Why is it that after each meetup with Chinese appointed Defense Minister with SECDEF Lloyd Austin the Chinese officers ended up getting investigated and rather unfortunately subsequently sacked from the job for CORRUPTION CHARGES. WTF!!

Is Lloyd Austin that charming and Uber persuasive in coercing/corrupting his Chinese counterparts? Lol WTH.

If Adm. Dong Jun is found to be corrupt, then the PLA despite all the advances it made in equipment and technology is in my opinion so thoroughly compromised -- my perception only. It's no wonder why the Americans and it's vassals including the chihuahua Philippines aren't afraid to challenge Chinese claims in the SCS. This latest incident isn't going to give the PLA a whole lot of confidence within its rank and file, it's elastic allies, and in my opinion actually just emboldens the enemy.

Perhaps it's no wonder why China has been talking about peace this peace that, because it's not at all confident with the actual capabilities of its own military. Casualty averse due to the genius plan of Deng Xiaoping and the hyperfocus on material wealth while slowly but surely losing the martial spirit of the Chinese people.

What the flying f..k is their MSS or whoever f..ng doing the vetting on selecting these f..kd up officers. Who even leaked this news to the FT for the 3rd bleeping time? I mean to quote the former British Spy and writer of James Bond, Ian Fleming: "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action"
Near every single US official pro Iraq and Afghanistan invasions were corrupt, that wasn't necessarily enemy action was it?

Anyways this article is non credible, not only is it from a mouthpiece outlet of another government that has its own very strong ideas and agendas that are often incompatible with reality, but they also present fake news about Qin Gang who left for medical reasons.

From an overall perspective, holding higher ups accountable for allowing lower levels to be inefficient is necessary, this shows a healthy system where nobody is beyond reproach.

So you suggest to save face China should never sack less skilled officers to replace them with more skilled ones, then you're essentially turning the military into a welfare program for the ones working in it, the exact same thing many people here mock NATO militaries for.

Imho our enemies could actually benefit a lot from less face saving and more focus on efficiency, for example every official that suggested the 2023 Ukraine counteroffensive should have met the same fate as Li Shangfu, as should every official that failed to audit the Pentagon. But luckily they won't do that.
 
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