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coolgod

Brigadier
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It always perplexed me why this whole affair was brushed under the carpet. Normally, if the US had even the faintest evidence the virus was engineered, it'd run the news cycle for years and wouldn't let up on the pressure. Indeed, this was what happened for a while in the beginning, but then it felt like mainstream media got the signal from the government to close down the discourse, and the Biden people just kind of shut up about it.

Now it's more clear. During their investigation they discovered the depth of US involvement and that it was essentially an US initiative. It's increasingly obvious the Chinese "bat lady" was just a collaborator paid by the Americans to conduct the research outside the US so they could avoid scrutiny. She didn't pursue this out of her own ideas, much less the Chinese government's - she was just the Americans' tool.

So they shut the whole narrative down to try & wash their hands of it, because if it ever got out that US institutions essentially used a Chinese proxy to do the research that created COVID, despite knowing of the dangers, they'd get the larger share of the blame.
I think the most confusing part was why there are still prominent politicians bringing this up e.g., Rand Paul and Robert Redfield. If the US was really complicit in creating COVID, this is a accusation with a heavy penalty, I doubt it's just party politics.
 

Index

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It always perplexed me why this whole affair was brushed under the carpet. Normally, if the US had even the faintest evidence the virus was engineered, it'd run the news cycle for years and wouldn't let up on the pressure. Indeed, this was what happened for a while in the beginning, but then it felt like mainstream media got the signal from the government to close down the discourse, and the Biden people just kind of shut up about it.

Now it's more clear. During their investigation they discovered the depth of US involvement and that it was essentially an US initiative. It's increasingly obvious the Chinese "bat lady" was just a collaborator paid by the Americans to conduct the research outside the US so they could avoid scrutiny. She didn't pursue this out of her own ideas, much less the Chinese government's - she was just the Americans' tool.
This is certainly an impossibility, because China monitors in and out going research, there would never had been an American bioweapons research in China, unless it was a collaboration between both countries. Which is not likely at all.
So they shut the whole narrative down to try & wash their hands of it, because if it ever got out that US institutions essentially used a Chinese proxy to do the research that created COVID, despite knowing of the dangers, they'd get the larger share of the blame.
If you want to be conspirational one can guess that US did release a bioweapon, but China turned it around (the widespread covid variant targeted obese and thrombogenic people much harder, which is the opposite of Asians).

I lean more towards a natural disease where the first known super spreader event was in Wuhan, but it likely started somewhere else first, since it was easy to contain it in China. If there were foul play in bioweapons from either US or China, they can post documents online to expose the other side.

However, if a high level US decision was made to "encourage" people (especially ones working for US regime such as soldiers) known to be sick in a natural seasonal diseases US CDC is incompetent/willfully concealing to travel to a Chinese transport hub during the holidays, there might not be a plausible paper trail for China to leak.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
This is certainly an impossibility, because China monitors in and out going research, there would never had been an American bioweapons research in China, unless it was a collaboration between both countries. Which is not likely at all.

If you want to be conspirational one can guess that US did release a bioweapon, but China turned it around (the widespread covid variant targeted obese and thrombogenic people much harder, which is the opposite of Asians).

I lean more towards a natural disease where the first known super spreader event was in Wuhan, but it likely started somewhere else first, since it was easy to contain it in China. If there were foul play in bioweapons from either US or China, they can post documents online to expose the other side.

However, if a high level US decision was made to "encourage" people (especially ones working for US regime such as soldiers) known to be sick in a natural seasonal diseases US CDC is incompetent/willfully concealing to travel to a Chinese transport hub during the holidays, there might not be a plausible paper trail for China to leak.
Check the Wuhan military games that was held back in October of 2019. It's alleged that there were US military participants that had to be evacuated out due to a mysterious unknown illness.
 

siegecrossbow

Field Marshall
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Hard to tell Asian ladies' age. Biden probably thought she was in her 20s.

You mean teens.
 

iewgnem

Captain
Registered Member
This is certainly an impossibility, because China monitors in and out going research, there would never had been an American bioweapons research in China, unless it was a collaboration between both countries. Which is not likely at all.

If you want to be conspirational one can guess that US did release a bioweapon, but China turned it around (the widespread covid variant targeted obese and thrombogenic people much harder, which is the opposite of Asians).

I lean more towards a natural disease where the first known super spreader event was in Wuhan, but it likely started somewhere else first, since it was easy to contain it in China. If there were foul play in bioweapons from either US or China, they can post documents online to expose the other side.

However, if a high level US decision was made to "encourage" people (especially ones working for US regime such as soldiers) known to be sick in a natural seasonal diseases US CDC is incompetent/willfully concealing to travel to a Chinese transport hub during the holidays, there might not be a plausible paper trail for China to leak.
Two years ago Canada's Conservative party made a big fuss about demanding to know what happened at Winnipeg lab, where two Chinese virus researchers were arrested by CSIS for sending totally not COVID samples to China in summer of 2019. The ruling Liberals then invited them to a classified briefing, and the Conservatives stopped all mention of it ever since.

The sample sent to China from Winnipeg in the summer of 2019 was definitely COVID, it was sent to Winnipeg by Harvard's Charles Lieber who was also arrested for it, and the recipient of the samples in China was eventually given Hero of the Republic medal. So China definitely knew about the weapon before 2020, hence the immediate BSL4 order after first sequencing in Wuhan and finding it's the same virus as the summer sample.

The way I see it the sequence of event was: concept for the attack was formed in 2018 around time of trade war, Crimson Contagion exercise was carried out late 2018/ early 2019 that naturally showed US emerging with least loses, order to deploy was then given, the sample was then either deliberately or accidentally leaked from Fort Detricks in 2019 as cover, Lieber either due to conscience or believing it as a leak sent samples to colleagues in Winnipeg to study, those colleagues then immediately sent it to their contacts in China.

There are a large body of evidence pointing to pre-spread in the US in 2019, if Crimson Contagion exercise didn't happen it could be explained by a leak, but the exercise did happen and its content was the exact scenario that unfolded a year later.

IMO it's likely the eventual variant that spread in the west was China's counter-attack rather than a natural mutation from the original variant tailored for China. Early news reports from the US paid unusual attention to viral mutation in quarantined China arrivals, and US swong from let-it-spread to max-lockdown after detection of the new variant.

In either case I find it funny how Americans (and Canadians) have themselves converged on acknowledging COVID is their creation, but make up elaborate conspiracies to explain how it ended up in China, as opposed to far more obvious and simple explanations.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
Two years ago Canada's Conservative party made a big fuss about demanding to know what happened at Winnipeg lab, where two Chinese virus researchers were arrested by CSIS for sending totally not COVID samples to China in summer of 2019. The ruling Liberals then invited them to a classified briefing, and the Conservatives stopped all mention of it ever since.

The sample sent to China from Winnipeg in the summer of 2019 was definitely COVID, it was sent to Winnipeg by Harvard's Charles Lieber who was also arrested for it, and the recipient of the samples in China was eventually given Hero of the Republic medal. So China definitely knew about the weapon before 2020, hence the immediate BSL4 order after first sequencing in Wuhan and finding it's the same virus as the summer sample.

The way I see it the sequence of event was: concept for the attack was formed in 2018 around time of trade war, Crimson Contagion exercise was carried out late 2018/ early 2019 that naturally showed US emerging with least loses, order to deploy was then given, the sample was then either deliberately or accidentally leaked from Fort Detricks in 2019 as cover, Lieber either due to conscience or believing it as a leak sent samples to colleagues in Winnipeg to study, those colleagues then immediately sent it to their contacts in China.

There are a large body of evidence pointing to pre-spread in the US in 2019, if Crimson Contagion exercise didn't happen it could be explained by a leak, but the exercise did happen and its content was the exact scenario that unfolded a year later.

IMO it's likely the eventual variant that spread in the west was China's counter-attack rather than a natural mutation from the original variant tailored for China. Early news reports from the US paid unusual attention to viral mutation in quarantined China arrivals, and US swong from let-it-spread to max-lockdown after detection of the new variant.

In either case I find it funny how Americans (and Canadians) have themselves converged on acknowledging COVID is their creation, but make up elaborate conspiracies to explain how it ended up in China, as opposed to far more obvious and simple explanations.
 

Arij Javaid

Junior Member
Registered Member
Concern in India as Pakistan, Bangladesh restore sea ties
Such direct maritime links between India’s eastern and western neighbours have the potential to create instability in the northeastern states because of their proximity to Bangladesh’s southeastern coast"
Good for china. This allows china to focus on more important areas of interest such as in the pacific, south china sea and Taiwan strait.

Let Pakistan deal with small fries like India
 

pmc

Colonel
Registered Member
@coolgod I just finished watching this video presentation from a Chinese-American professor on the Sino-Russia current geopolitical dynamics which is ahistorical normal in normative terms. Professor Yu Bin also mentioned the Westphalian notion look on state to state relationship that may have produced less RELIGIOUS WARS but not necessarily lessen the interstate conflicts unlike that of the Eastern CONFUCIAN model that China supposedly operated with.

I am seeing what you have mentioned that it does seem the current leadership in China is eager to promote Confucianism as it's soft power onto the world scene with great intent.


The professor made two errors. Calling it a Western Civil War and than non alignment of major powers of Global South. he mentioned China has not recognize Crimea. what you think will happen when Russia all of sudden change stance on many things?.
who does he think is global south majority?. Start with African continent. and it is the Soft Power that is suppressing things about that involvement. It happened before in Syria. where that Soft Power provide cover to push millions towards Turkey and Europe. when it comes Russia you only concentrate on that Green.

2020 explanation of a third faction.

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Spotlight on Erdogan's Deep State Roots​

I have talked a lot about the Atlanticists sect linked to NATO and the Eurasians linked to Russia and China in my previous articles, but I did not touch on the other deep entity that Recep Tayyip Erdogan began to establish with a sect of Islamists secretly starting in the mid-nineties of the last century on the ruins of an Islamist entity linked to the American and British wings of NATO except as an interjection that does not provide a comprehensive vision sufficient to comprehend its nature, dimensions and various mechanisms. Therefore, in this report, I will seek to reveal this entity with its historical roots, current branches and the prevailing conflict between it and the Atlanticists and Eurasians sects

2018 forcing Erdo.
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What does the Turkish 'deep state' want in Syria?​

In other words, Ankara was not acting in the name of peace. They were the “neighbors” who supported and fueled the transformation of the conflict between the regime and the opposition into a full-fledged civil war with the involvement of foreign centers
On the one hand, the Turkish armed forces are improving their internal image and strengthening their political importance, on the other hand, they are helping to preserve the territorial integrity of the Assad regime in Syria. They are acting together with Russia, coordinating their actions with it. At this point, Ankara is simultaneously acting together with Moscow and Damascus against the United States on the principle of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Russia publicly declared its desires in Sochi, when Syrian politicians of different orientations gathered there. To summarize, we can say that the issues of territorial integrity of Syria, the integrity of the state and secularism have come to the fore. These political issues are also the preferences of the “Eurasian deep state”, which forces Erdogan to support their aspirations.

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