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Yes the Western media who acts like they're so civil looking like the circus they created for themselves.

That Republican Marine that I know that I've been talking about in here that I get into heated debates with... he's also a former cop. Key word... former. What I've heard is that he can't find a job because apparently any police department researching his history just has to look at his Facebook page and they don't hire him because he's a PR nightmare waiting to happen. Well one day I forget what was the discussion specifically about but I responded to him saying, "I can't breathe!" and he blew it. So don't believe the bull from Republicans defending someone like this guy when saying, "The left can't take a joke." It wasn't like I offended him because some innocent cop was killed by a criminal. It was a criminal cop who killed someone.

It's hard to be sympathetic with this Mehdi Hasan too. He's the guy that interviewed a Chinese official for Al Jazeera gladly taking the Western side against China. I didn't see it but read about it. Mehdi Hasan is one of those Middle Easterners when the West isn't against the Middle East who will suck up to the West to score points with them at someone else's expense in this case China.

Minm said:

I'm talking about the continuity of western civilization. Which clearly is continuous, from ancient Greece, to Rome and until today. The fact that it's not always a single empire doesn't really matter to a civilisation. Most civilisations are not civilisation states. And you shouldn't over interpret barbarian conquests. They don't usually replace the majority of the population, although they can change culture. Being overrun by barbarians who introduce poor governance is common enough in Chinese history anyway

Rome is simply an episode in western civilization. It's not roman civilisation. That's why you shouldn't compare Rome to China but to the Han dynasty

India is not culturally western. Turkey is not the inheritor of Rome either, despite ottoman claims. But people like the English have fully self colonised, abandoned their Celtic and Saxon heritage and are fully western, graeco Roman now. Their original culture by blood has only left a small legacy, but they wouldn't think of themselves as Celtic tribes, even if that's what the majority are genetically

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I think you’re confusing genetic lineage with civilisation; the modern westerner shares blood lineage with the Roman’s and Greeks from genetic markers but does not share the same cultural values as that of the Romans. Where are the western funeral games, the sacrifices to the gods, the paterfamilias, the acceptability of bisexuality with the stigma of being a bottom (compared to the modern globohomo which is all bottom energy). Going by the argument of genetic lineage begs the question why westerners don’t also adopt Indian cultural values after all, the Indo Europeans were the ancestor of both races.

What we have in the modern west is the attempted theft of Roman and Greek civilisation by descendants of barbarian tribes who were themselves instrumental in the destruction of Rome. It’s like modern American southerners glorifying the antebellum south, who themselves sought to emulate Ancient Greek and Roman architecture in the antebellum plantation style mansions. In a way, its exactly like modern Israelis trying to claim hummus and seedless watermelons.

Compare this to modern Chinese who can read and share the same cultural values as those of the Han dynasty eg filial piety, ancestor worship, incense burning, barring modern aesthetic changes such as the cutting of hair and nails. In fact, if we were to use the methodology of western propagandists who try to say the cultural revolution destroyed Chinese culture, then the hippie revolution of the 60s destroyed american culture much as the modern woke movement also destroyed American and Anglo culture.

Minm said:

Are Qi people really the same as Qin people in the warring states period? Were Nanyue people really Han people by blood? With what right can Guangdong people even claim to be Han? Ethnic identity is a cultural construct which only becomes genetic after many centuries of mixing. The different Chinese cultures fused because of empire and less developed regions adopted the civilisation of the empire.

Similarly, the Germanic tribes in France and Germany adopted Graeco-Roman culture. Roman civilisation is well known to be a continuation of the Greeks. The Franks and Goths etc lost their original barbarian roots (which was never advanced enough to call a civilisation). And the majority of the population of Spain, Italy, the balkans and even England are descendants of people who were Roman citizens (or Roman slaves) at the time of Caracalla. Western and Southern Europe can legitimately claim inheritance from the Romans. Central and Eastern Europe is more of a case of self colonisation and conquest from the west that forced adoption of western civilisation. So it's a bit sad for people like the Poles to cling to roman catholic religion, which to them is a foreign culture that they just adopted as their own because they recognised their own cultures to be inferior. Similar to Korea and Japan adopting Chinese culture I suppose

China is a civilisation with a single state interrupted by short periods of civil war. Europe is a civilisation with constantly warring states and brief periods of (partial) unity. It's a different model of civilisation. That doesn't mean it's not a continuous civilisation. Islamic civilisation also has only brief periods of partial unity and large areas have a mixture of their original civilisation and Islamic influences. Moroccans are ethnically not related to the Arabs from the Arabian peninsula who invented Islam, but they still speak Arabic and call themselves Arab

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Look I was already being generous. I said I consider Goth ruled Roman Empire to be a proper inheritor, the same way Yuan and Qing could claim to be China. But even that identity was destroyed, so I fail to see your point. I was already being loose with ethnicity.

When China was destroyed by Mongols, the same people still consider themselves Chinese. Identity persisted, they did not all speak Mongolian, did not all become steppe horse riders. Same cant be said for original Romans, their identity ceased to exist after repeated devastation.

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Yes the Western media who acts like they're so civil looking like the circus they created for themselves.

That Republican Marine that I know that I've been talking about in here that I get into heated debates with... he's also a former cop. Key word... former. What I've heard is that he can't find a job because apparently any police department researching his history just has to look at his Facebook page and they don't hire him because he's a PR nightmare waiting to happen. Well one day I forget what was the discussion specifically about but I responded to him saying, "I can't breathe!" and he blew it. So don't believe the bull from Republicans defending someone like this guy when saying, "The left can't take a joke." It wasn't like I offended him because some innocent cop was killed by a criminal. It was a criminal cop who killed someone.

It's hard to be sympathetic with this Mehdi Hasan too. He's the guy that interviewed a Chinese official for Al Jazeera gladly taking the Western side against China. I didn't see it but read about it. Mehdi Hasan is one of those Middle Easterners when the West isn't against the Middle East who will suck up to the West to score points with them at someone else's expense in this case China.

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Frankly that Chinese dude was completely unprepared for the type of debate that is expected from Mehdi, it's not a secret. He should've known what exactly he was getting into and be prepared accordingly, but he was absolutely not prepared for it. Him getting pummelled in that debate is 100% on him. Mehdi is at end of the day, Democratic-leaning Westerner with Middle Eastern descent, he is not obligated to bat for China, I think having that expectation is bit of pushing your luck. Mehdi's brand positioning is to allign on all western points to build widest possible following to push against Republicans and Israel. So, being anti-China is more useful for him in that context than being pro-China. His style is reading headlines and top level research and pushing gotchyas. 10 mins of research will tell us that. You go 2 layers deeper and you can push back against him, but his opponents are mostly Republicans and AIPAC PR trolls and there relationship to facts is very poor and that's why he takes them to cleaners.

But it would be nice if there was someone in Chinese PR machinery that can modernize and amplify China's PR, I dont think its a priority and/or perhaps they dont care, so then, we cant really complain much about it. Even Qater has more PR prowess. We still get those Commie-1970's style, almost meme/caricature type PR releases to this day, cmon.

TK3600 said:

Oh come on. Without Chinese, singapore is Malaysian economy. We have contrast right there lol.

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Lol! Without the Chinese majority there, Singapore would have become a backwater mangrove island. It would not have spitted from Malaysia in the first place, because there was no reason do so for the Malay rulers of Malaysia. Overtime, Singapore would also be renamed to its pre-colonial name: Temasek, and become a part of the Johore state.

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Yes the Western media who acts like they're so civil looking like the circus they created for themselves.

That Republican Marine that I know that I've been talking about in here that I get into heated debates with... he's also a former cop. Key word... former. What I've heard is that he can't find a job because apparently any police department researching his history just has to look at his Facebook page and they don't hire him because he's a PR nightmare waiting to happen. Well one day I forget what was the discussion specifically about but I responded to him saying, "I can't breathe!" and he blew it. So don't believe the bull from Republicans defending someone like this guy when saying, "The left can't take a joke." It wasn't like I offended him because some innocent cop was killed by a criminal. It was a criminal cop who killed someone.

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Your friend appears to have anger issues. Possibly a white supremacist too. I doubt its related to PTSD, because angry, violent, and racist people are often attracted to the military. Had he seen active duty during the War on Terror?

Seems like a lot of US cops these days are ex-military men. The way the US military, especially the Marines train their soldiers, a recurring theme is aggression and domination over the enemy. Be it enemy combatants, or suspected combatants (civilians). All that seemed to carry over into police training, and we see the results these days. American cops are so trigger happy, that it appalls even the other Anglo nations.

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It's hard to be sympathetic with this Mehdi Hasan too. He's the guy that interviewed a Chinese official for Al Jazeera gladly taking the Western side against China. I didn't see it but read about it. Mehdi Hasan is one of those Middle Easterners when the West isn't against the Middle East who will suck up to the West to score points with them at someone else's expense in this case China.

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Naah, we shouldn't sympathize with Mehdi Hasan. He is just a British dude of Indian descent and a practicing Muslim. His hands are also covered in blood. Thousands of Muslim blood. Not too long ago, he was a big cheerleader for the Arab Spring and the terrorist destruction of Syria. So apart from Palestine, everything else about him is pro-West. I have seen his interviews with Imran Khan and Anwar Ibrahim. He softened them up by agreeing with them on the Palestine issue, but then turns around and shames them for not going along with the Uighur Genocide myth. He always talks over his interviewees and doesn't give them much time to come up with with their answer. When his interviewees were rushed into an imperfect answer, he'll then use it as a gotcha. He is neither a debater, nor a journalist, but a tabloid media presstitute like Piers Morgan or Tim Sebastian. I had not seen him sparring with George Galloway, or any other people who could give him a proper debate. That coward.

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Yes the Western media who acts like they're so civil looking like the circus they created for themselves.

That Republican Marine that I know that I've been talking about in here that I get into heated debates with... he's also a former cop. Key word... former. What I've heard is that he can't find a job because apparently any police department researching his history just has to look at his Facebook page and they don't hire him because he's a PR nightmare waiting to happen. Well one day I forget what was the discussion specifically about but I responded to him saying, "I can't breathe!" and he blew it. So don't believe the bull from Republicans defending someone like this guy when saying, "The left can't take a joke." It wasn't like I offended him because some innocent cop was killed by a criminal. It was a criminal cop who killed someone.

It's hard to be sympathetic with this Mehdi Hasan too. He's the guy that interviewed a Chinese official for Al Jazeera gladly taking the Western side against China. I didn't see it but read about it. Mehdi Hasan is one of those Middle Easterners when the West isn't against the Middle East who will suck up to the West to score points with them at someone else's expense in this case China.

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Isn't Medhi Indian?

These guys are goddamn shapeshifters. No wonder racefrauding is a thing. That might explain how they are able to get power in the west.

Kamala Harris is probably more Indian than Black but only talks about her black heritage.

Big difference of Roman and China is how it is ruled. China is one block, not relying on a Qin culture. Rome is central state administrating colonies. For a long time they refused to grant citizenship to territory. When the begrudging did, they made little attempt to assimilate. The locals might try to identify as Roman spontaneously, but only in their own interpretation. Their 'Roman' identity is different from another region's "we are Romans too".

Greeks think they are Romans due to being having cemtral government, but they are more or less secular, not obeyimg the pope.

Germans had close relation with the religious figure and own the city itself, but speak another language, never part of previous Roman state. They are quite convinced they are Roman but had little acceptance in other region think they are Romans.

So while they all think they are Romans, they had little in common, and was hardly fully Roman in first place. There is no reason to accept reunofication. From standpoint of Goth Romans, being ruled by Greeks is more or less ruled by a foriegner, despite both sides believe in the Roman idea. When Greeks see Germans, they see aliens taking over their land, ought to be eliminated. When Chinese unify, they see the conquorer as one of themselves taking mandate of heaven.

So the lesson here is having your regions believe central legitmacy is good but insufficient. Between regions they must also harmonize, see others as the same family. And if we are all in same family, whats the difference between a lord from Nanjing or Beijing? Only then do people accept unification.

We see similar idea as Chinese in Europe 19th century. Between all us Italians, who cares if Italians from Rome form the kingdom or Italian from Sardinia? I believe in big family look after each other. I have faith Sardinian government will treat us as fairly as local lord in Milan. Only thing between us are the lords squabbling, and we can get rid of these pesky lords for all we care if it means good for the family. As we see, Italy unified. Rome never did.

You could see Italy unify from a never existing country, because regions harmonize. Rome had such prestige and history, yet could never unify because people in each regions are never properly harmonized.

India is suffering from intense pollution when it is still nowhere near to becoming the factory of the world. Still, they won't get as much stick from the Western media, because they are no rivals.

A decade ago, China was also heavily polluted. But that was because they were producing stuff for the world. The West were very scathing about China's pollution issues. Back then, Westerners were calling a China a hell-hole to live in, and they assumed that the "evil CCP" will never be able to fix it.


Today, China had dramatically cleaned up compared to about a decade ago, yet they get no praise. Instead, the West are calling China's Green Revolution a "threat". When China was dirty, they slammed it for being dirty. When China cleaned up, they slammed it for being greedy. The CPC cleaned up China for the Chinese people, not to please you Western pearl clutchers. They did the right thing to censor your idiot media, so that they can listen only to genuine complains by the Chinese people, and not be distracted by complains influenced by your idiot media.

Randomuser said:

Isn't Medhi Indian?

These guys are goddamn shapeshifters. No wonder racefrauding is a thing. That might explain how they are able to get power in the west.

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Yes, I've been badly mistaken. Thanks for pointing out my mistake, I've corrected that in my post. Damn, Mehdi's parents came from Hyderabad, India. Now I do understand why he acts the way he does. Lol!