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texx1

Junior Member
Look at it from another angle.

Reciprocity is not important, compared to winning or achieving your objectives.

The trade war and tech war could last a while.

Sooner or later, the Chinese will counter attack. Here is the counter attack, and this is not stopping.

Europe is going into its third lock down due to the coronavirus. What we have seen the last few days, China attacking all of the western world in some way shape or form, that is simply unprecedented.

This jailing of Canadian due the the American case of Meng Wanzhou, the contempt displayed for the whole world to see in Alaska by the CCP, the sanctions war against the EU, now boycotts of western companies which could mean they are finished perhaps even in RCEP.

Personally I would rather see the attack done this way in this irregular warfare, than just some knee jerk retaliatory type of actions.

After these two weeks, the opponents must regroup because they are isolated and in some cases reeling.

Simple retaliatory actions by China at the time of the original action against China, cannot achieve what we saw these past two weeks.

Best thing is this, this counter attack is not stopping.

Wang Yi going to Iran for a visit ... gonna to squeeze them all on that diplomatic front too.

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If china doesn't demonstrate a stronger will to hurt western economical interests especially within china, don't expect trade war or tech war to let up. You can't win a war or create a ceasefire when you are not imposing costs to the other side.

As for attacking the west, I only see more rhetoric than action right now. In the past few years, China has relied too much on meaningless words than effective counter sanctions. Sanctioning EU is a good start. But where are similar sanctions against UK, Canada?
 

texx1

Junior Member
What we are seeing this past two weeks ...

What we are seeing is China is trying to step on their neck.

That is good.

No, that is great!

The fight is really on now.

That is warfare. You pick the right time to launch the offensive.

Last week Saudi Arabia said it will try to fulfill all of China's oil needs for the next 50 years, words to that effect. This week, Wang Yi visits Iran. China is determined to remake the entire Middle East to be China friendly and eradicate all unwanted and malign actors, who always are the usual suspects.

Step on their neck, that is the point of an attack, not tit-for-tat retaliation. The tit-for-tat retaliation cannot do that.

What we are watching is coordinated by CCP, and they not stopping.
You put way too much faith in Saudi Arabia. US military presence in the kingdom is the ace that would ensure Saudi never go against US geopolitical interests. Princes are not going to risk their much pampered behind for China when push comes to shove.
 

horse

Colonel
Registered Member
You put way too much faith in Saudi Arabia. US military presence in the kingdom is the ace that would ensure Saudi never go against US geopolitical interests. Princes are not going to risk their much pampered behind for China when push comes to shove.

1. Their weapons they bought from Uncle Sam don't even work.

2. China is winning. Throughout history, states tend to go with the winners or stronger power, rather than the losers.
 

texx1

Junior Member
1. Their weapons they bought from Uncle Sam don't even work.

2. China is winning. Throughout history, states tend to go with the winners or stronger power, rather than the losers.
For all intent and purposes, Saudi Kingdom is more or less a client state of the US. Until PRC has the will and the necessary expeditionary military power to actually influence middle east, you shouldn't expect Saudis to betray Uncle Sam.

Currently, PRC is at best holding the line defensively. It's far too early to call a winner. If China is actually winning as you said, we wouldn't see EU so eager to join US unilateral sanctions.
 

KenC

Junior Member
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I think there is a case to be made that China fights back when conditions are ripe. There is no point in giving out knee jerk retaliation when you are the relatively weaker side. China was export based economy then and very much dependent on the Western market and technical knowhow. Also, conditions were not that unfavorable against China.

The external situation has changed with Trump and Covid. Also, China itself has changed. China has become much more self sufficient in almost every aspect, people are more confident and united after the battle against Covid. Meanwhile, the opponents are in disarray and relatively weaker. With dual circulation economy and bottom line thinking or strategies in place, China is ready to take on the US and EU.
 

horse

Colonel
Registered Member
For all intent and purposes, Saudi Kingdom is more or less a client state of the US. Until PRC has the will and the necessary expeditionary military power to actually influence middle east, you shouldn't expect Saudis to betray Uncle Sam.

Currently, PRC is at best holding the line defensively. It's far too early to call a winner. If China is actually winning as you said, we wouldn't see EU so eager to join US unilateral sanctions.
1. If Saudi Arabia wants the USA to hang around and watch the Saudis and Chinese develop and expand their business, whether petroleum, telecommunications, and weapons sales, that's fine. If the United States does not get in the way of all that, then that is cool.

2. When the west invokes white privilege, that means they are losing and there are no other cards to play.

It is a sure loser, and a sign of the times. When white privilege is invoked by the ruling class in the west, all that does is alienate other countries externally.

Internally, all that will happen is increased racial strife, along with a few hapless statues being toppled.

:oops:
 

Sleepyjam

Junior Member
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For all intent and purposes, Saudi Kingdom is more or less a client state of the US. Until PRC has the will and the necessary expeditionary military power to actually influence middle east, you shouldn't expect Saudis to betray Uncle Sam.

Currently, PRC is at best holding the line defensively. It's far too early to call a winner. If China is actually winning as you said, we wouldn't see EU so eager to join US unilateral sanctions.
Its pretty naive to believe SA would never betray the US considering that they had to be sanctioned for the assassination of the US based activist and that they had teamed up with the Russians to destroy US oil production. And recently prioritzed oil production for China and vowing to oppose interfere in the internal affair of other nations.

Its also not the first time EU does something that is against its own interest so that line of reason is meaningless. For all that supposed “eagerness” the sanctions themselves are so weak.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
The prez continue with touring his old stomping ground. I guess he has soft spot for Fuzhou and Fujian in general He said He spent the best year of his life in Fujian at min 0:24

Here he visited the famous 7 lane and 3 alley a historic neighborhood in Fuzhou where there are hundred intellectual, government official, military men come from

Here he visited Shaxian famous for snack
 
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