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Speaking about food. I've watched a video of a US vet comparing US and Chinese MRE.

Surprisingly he enjoyed the taste of the Chinese MRE. But he gave the win to the US MRE because of the calorie count. The US MRE packs more than 3400 calories while the Chinese MRE packs less than 1900 calories. He argues that calories are more important for soldiers in the field. And this kicked off a calorie debate in the comments section amongst the MAGA and China supporters.

But looking at that US MRE, its pack full of junk food. Aside from the main dish, it has Skittles, Peanut Butter & Jelly, some Kool-Aid type of drink, gums, and coffee. The Chinese MRE contains the main dish, sides, a braised quail egg snack, and a soup. I didn't see any drinks sachets in there, so I'm assuming that the PLA doesn't serve Kool-Aid crap at least.

In own opinion, the PLA nutritionists have their own reason for making their MREs that way. I don't know exactly why yet. Maybe Chinese soldiers just don't need as much calories as their American counterparts.

pmc said:

100K shells a day? this will be like 37m a year. how to deal with such scale for storage and transportation to a offroad military truck with much lower payload capacity. i dont think people will be willing to work in explosive factory long term.
Videos about cruise missiles or shell production atleast should show the storage size of the factory. and these masks are now used dealing with metal work.
this 12k per day factory size.
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Run the numbers

100K artillery shells per day
At 8 shells per pallet, that is 12500 pallets per day

Then call it 40 pallets per shipping container.
So that's 313 containers per day, or 13 containers per hour leaving the factory.

Typically, China handles 800K containers per day.


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Once those artillery shells are pallets in container trucks, it's straightforward to ship them like any other cargo, and unload them with forklift trucks.

Sardaukar20 said:

LOL! French cuisine still beats Anglo cuisine anytime. Those kinds of food lack culture and sophistication. And they'll will make you fat in no time.

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Yeah, Anglo cuisine (especially from Britain) sucks beyond all common sense because in all honesty, they historically and even right now, cannot cook to save their life

Sardaukar20 said:

Speaking about food. I've watched a video of a US vet comparing US and Chinese MRE.

Surprisingly he enjoyed the taste of the Chinese MRE. But he gave the win to the US MRE because of the calorie count. The US MRE packs more than 3400 calories while the Chinese MRE packs less than 1900 calories. He argues that calories are more important for soldiers in the field. And this kicked off a calorie debate in the comments section amongst the MAGA and China supporters.

But looking at that US MRE, its pack full of junk food. Aside from the main dish, it has Skittles, Peanut Butter & Jelly, some Kool-Aid type of drink, gums, and coffee. The Chinese MRE contains the main dish, sides, a braised quail egg snack, and a soup. I didn't see any drinks sachets in there, so I'm assuming that the PLA doesn't serve Kool-Aid crap at least.

In own opinion, the PLA nutritionists have their own reason for making their MREs that way. I don't know exactly why yet. Maybe Chinese soldiers just don't need as much calories as their American counterparts.

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I think the PLA ones are meant to be more modular because you can also find junk food snacks somewhere else than in the MRE, so it's your choice if you want to have them as part of your meal or not.

If an US soldier doesn't want to eat anything but the hot dishes with most macros in them, they would have to throw away or at least save the candy. While a PLA soldier would get candy somewhere else if they wanted it.

jiajia99 said:

Yeah, Anglo cuisine (especially from Britain) sucks beyond all common sense because in all honesty, they historically and even right now, cannot cook to save their life

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The thing is, a culture's cuisine says a lot about its views and perspectives on life and what they enjoy. The climate and geography is not an excuse because Danish food is not bad and it's directly opposite Britain with a similar climate. Chinese food is communal, with flavours representative of each region and its cultural evolution, it tells a story. cuisine in taiwan for eg is heavily influenced by KMT remnants who failed from northern China, with souther cuisine. British food tells me they hate life and their propensity towards violence was historically an outlet for their latent homosexuality.

Sardaukar20 said:

Speaking about food. I've watched a video of a US vet comparing US and Chinese MRE.

Surprisingly he enjoyed the taste of the Chinese MRE. But he gave the win to the US MRE because of the calorie count. The US MRE packs more than 3400 calories while the Chinese MRE packs less than 1900 calories. He argues that calories are more important for soldiers in the field. And this kicked off a calorie debate in the comments section amongst the MAGA and China supporters.

But looking at that US MRE, its pack full of junk food. Aside from the main dish, it has Skittles, Peanut Butter & Jelly, some Kool-Aid type of drink, gums, and coffee. The Chinese MRE contains the main dish, sides, a braised quail egg snack, and a soup. I didn't see any drinks sachets in there, so I'm assuming that the PLA doesn't serve Kool-Aid crap at least.

In own opinion, the PLA nutritionists have their own reason for making their MREs that way. I don't know exactly why yet. Maybe Chinese soldiers just don't need as much calories as their American counterparts.

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If i recall, the PLA has a special mess unit that cooks fresh field on the battlefield in communal pots/woks; as any solider can attest, an army marches on its stomach and hot food is always welcomed.

Chevalier said:

The thing is, a culture's cuisine says a lot about its views and perspectives on life and what they enjoy. The climate and geography is not an excuse because Danish food is not bad and it's directly opposite Britain with a similar climate. Chinese food is communal, with flavours representative of each region and its cultural evolution, it tells a story. cuisine in taiwan for eg is heavily influenced by KMT remnants who failed from northern China, with souther cuisine. British food tells me they hate life and their propensity towards violence was historically an outlet for their latent homosexuality.

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To be fair, I think British food is the way it is because the country was poor for the majority of its existence, and even the nobles identified themselves more with continental European customs.

Even as the British Empire was easily winning the great power struggle against Qing, the life quality of a British peasant was not necessarily higher than a Qing peasant. Irish famine for example, proportionally speaking, even the Taiping rebellion was not as devastating, and that had full scale fighting in it and not just famines. Even in the capital region, the Thames is littered with infant bones from prostitutes, dating as late as the 1800s.

And as soon as the British starting getting rich in the 1910s, rationing from ww1 and ww2 hit immediately, further stunting cuisine development.

If you're a continental European or Asian peasant, your diet most likely included a fair bit of fish and meat, because animal rearing works well in those regions. But if you're British, you mostly farmed and ate gruel, beans and later, potatos.

Serfs/lower class had it especially bad in Britain and Russia, compared to Italian, German and French lower class that had better upward mobility. Russian cuisine is saved because they adapted what nobles ate back to normal cuisine, but British nobles usually ate French or Italian food instead of inventing their own dishes like their Russian counterparts. So the modern British cuisine is instead adapted from British peasant tastes.

jiajia99 said:

Yeah, Anglo cuisine (especially from Britain) sucks beyond all common sense because in all honesty, they historically and even right now, cannot cook to save their life

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The population of the UK went through rationing during WW2 and then until 1954 to pay their huge war debts to the US.
A lot of foodstuffs stopped being produced outright. For example they stopped making most kinds of cheese and reduced it to a single one.

In some ways their cuisine never quite recovered from that.

jiajia99 said:

I thought the French are known for their food quality, what in holy shiz is wrong with these people. Man they really did let themselves go, although to be honest, I never really understood what was so good about French cooking anyways, other then snails and frog legs, most French dishes are overpriced as hell for the taste and even then, I feel like Asian cooking is way better for the price and taste.

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It's pretty simple, French cuisine's reputation today is ironically due to the legacy of British empire, Historically French culture was associated with British royalty so former British colonies saw French food as something elites eat, Since rich people eat it every women now wants to try it so the guy who wants to bang her make a reservation at a French restaurant rinse repeat voila part of popular culture and narrative, Same with Italian and Japanese cuisine, Italian immigrants opened lots of restaurants in New York wealthy Wall Street brokers started eating it and rest is history also why Sushi is super popular while Shioyaki is practically unknown, After Japan's economic rise post war the rich CEOs in west were eating Sushi since it wasn't spicy didn't leave any smell and had a ritual like atmosphere, a perfect dish for the business meeting with your Japanese counterparts; Once China becomes the largest economy you'll see more people treat Chinese food as 'High class' since anything Chinese will be associated with wealth and power not fake designer bags lol and where wealth go elites go followed by women and then finally men.

BoraTas said:

There was also the Sinochem's stripping of its voting rights in Pirelli. They had that right because of their partial (37%) ownership of Pirelli. Now Sinochem has no voting power in a business they have stakes in. Imagine owning 37% of a business but having no say over how it is run. If we stop being kind and call this what it is, it was an act of theft by the Italian government. I would speculate that it was more of a consideration for Chinese businesses. You know, the same adminstration might involve "national security something something" in future and take away their rights over their factories. Italy will stay toxic to large Chinese businesses at least until Meloni leaves.

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They even tied this to the American chip obsession. What a joke.

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These voting rights need to be renewed.

Sardaukar20 said:

Never bet against the #1 industrial power on earth today. China will be able to do it when operating in a war economy. Don't compare Russian military production with China's today. Because Russia is in a wartime economy, while China is still in a peacetime economy.

You think that nobody wants to work in explosives factories long term? Well, tell that to the Chinese. China produces roughly 90% of the world's fireworks. Nobody else even comes close to China's production numbers. Because of global demand, China produces fireworks in vast quantities all-year round. There are millions of Chinese working in that industry for decades already. These millions of people who have vast experience working with explosives for peace will not be needing extensive adjustments to work with explosives for war. So do not doubt China too easily.

Why are you concerned about warehouse and storage? China is the world's factory. It has more warehouses and storage space than you can ever imagine. In order to meet with global demand, China has the best logistics on Earth. All that vast infrastructure, trucks, and trains are not for show. You think too small. China is nothing like your beloved Gulf Arab nations whose industrial capacity is microscopic compared to East Asia.

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Kazan is trying to make this BRICS all about Gulf Arabs. It is certainly not a war time economy since you mentioned Gulf Arabs industrial capacity is microscopic and but they are always the guests in Russia in every event. Gulf Arab have accumulated so much soft power that they participate in BRICS without mentioning they are in BRICS.

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The first BRICS Koran recitation competition opened in Kazan​

The opening ceremony of the award was held in the Ballroom of the Korston Hotel in Arabic​

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lol fireworks. you should give some better example of engineering.
what i have read about 2S35 Koalitsiya that you see in the pics that these artillery shells not only goes out from the barrel at tremendous acceleration but ver quick high automated fire for multi target multi range engagement. and for this the manufacturing /quality control for the entire system and shells need absolutely top notch. this is how you fight a high end conflict under Nato surveillance. and these shells are transported by this offroad trucks and behind it is Aviation.