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Chevalier

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The kill-the-virus-by-drinking-bleach approach. The article did mention that this is assuming China doesn't retaliate. America is going to go full bully mode and try to bully the world into not doing business with China because if it doesn't it will lose out otherwise. Trump already hinted at this when he mentioned something about sanctioning countries that are dedollarizing. They are going to fight like hell for their hegemony and it won't be pretty, let's just hope China is prepared.
It is the anglo tradition to force their inferior products at gunpoint, from british imperialists to american vulture funds. Free trade has proven the anglo culture lacks competitive innovation in much the same way their mouthpieces tried to claim that Chinese and Asians couldn't innovate, and that outside of an environment where they control all the capital, they lose every single time.
 

CasualObserver

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Trump might be open to a deal but the current deep state is simultaneously too moronic and arrogant for such an arrangement to happen.
The planet can't handle another Cold War, so the sooner these confrontations die down, the better. Unfortunately, the majority still can't grasp the reality of the situation though so we still have witless warmongerer populists in power everywhere.

This is the Hippie in me speaking, but less weapon procurements and more investments in the economy/climate change please.
 

Iracundus

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It is the anglo tradition to force their inferior products at gunpoint, from british imperialists to american vulture funds. Free trade has proven the anglo culture lacks competitive innovation in much the same way their mouthpieces tried to claim that Chinese and Asians couldn't innovate, and that outside of an environment where they control all the capital, they lose every single time.

Aside from tariffs, Trump now seems to have a knee jerk visceral reaction to oppose anything environmentally friendly as he now associates anything green to left wing liberals. He has talked about rolling back environmental regulations, EV and battery subsidies, and fuel standards. Thing is...US businesses don't really want him to do that as it would make their products uncompetitive around the world. So while the rest of the world is trying to prepare for or positioning to lead the new world of green tech because it also makes business sense, a Trump administration would be trying to turn back the clock and reverse at full speed back to the 1950's.
 

CaribouTruth

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Aside from tariffs, Trump now seems to have a knee jerk visceral reaction to oppose anything environmentally friendly as he now associates anything green to left wing liberals. He has talked about rolling back environmental regulations, EV and battery subsidies, and fuel standards. Thing is...US businesses don't really want him to do that as it would make their products uncompetitive around the world. So while the rest of the world is trying to prepare for or positioning to lead the new world of green tech because it also makes business sense, a Trump administration would be trying to turn back the clock and reverse at full speed back to the 1950's.
On the green tech question, given the choice of planetary destruction vs New Energy Tech led by China, I'm 100% certain the anglo/american world will choose destruction. All this talk of transition to EV and Green Energy will fall, and IMO is already falling to the wayside if the Anglo/American world deems it necessary to confront China.
So, IMO its more about ideological imperative than who's currently in charge of the government and that doesn't care about who's in charge.
I'd say even though adoption is still quite high in places like Europe, the slowdown has to do as much with the China question as "consumer demand". See, the current tariffs and those to come yet against Chinese NEVs. I agree, soon the biggest adopters of Green energy/NEVs won't be the "green" Europe but the developing world, as its a means to wean themselves away from Petrodollar.
 

iBBz

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MIGA:

Step 1. Tariff the shit out of China
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US Tariffs at 60% Would Halve China’s Growth Rate, UBS Says​


Step 2. Devalue USD


JD Vance:
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Trump trade advisers plot dollar devaluation​


Step 3. Profit ???
Who taught this guy economics? People inside the US would have to pay more for services and goods, not less, so things may be cheaper to export, people will starve because of it. I guess the US is now bracing for poverty instead of fixing their policies. No reverse gear.





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Joe Biden: I received a request from the Saudis - they are ready to fully recognize Israel if we provide them with defense guarantees and allow them to create a civilian nuclear facility.

Is he making this up?
 
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PikeCowboy

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Lol, he even said the "when China comes we get a hospital, when the West comes we get a lecture" thing.

I still have hope he won't actually be that mean to China. At least he hasn't been obsessively ranting about it in the past like most other Republicunts. Hopefully there isn't too much radical Hindutva BJP genocide influence from the wife.
Seems like he's talking about semiconductors
“The thing that we need to prevent more than anything is a Chinese invasion of Taiwan,” the senator continued. “It would be catastrophic for this country. It would decimate our entire economy. It would throw this country into a Great Depression.”
 

FriedButter

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Who taught this guy economics? People inside the US would have to pay more for services and goods, not less, so things may be cheaper to export, people will starve because of it. I guess the US is now bracing for poverty instead of fixing their policies. No reverse gear.

Vance is well aware of what he said.

The one that I agree with is a sort of straightforwardly economically nationalist argument, that even though it may cost a couple basis points of GDP, we should be making more of our stuff.
 
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