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Petrolicious88 said:
Powerful interests that control the U.S. government want Trump.

If this was about protecting US from another Trump term, they would have told Biden to step aside.
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*some of the powerful interests

Otherwise the Biden faction wouldn't (all but frame) Trump with criminal charges. Pro-Biden oligarchs have more dirty methods they can use.

While Trump is supported by the extreme nationalist faction, this faction has always been weaker than the "traditional" oligarchs, which espouse nationalism under the cover of neoliberalism, as opposed to religious nationalism.

The traditional US leader faction has never been as weak as today, thanks to exhausting their economy, losing their full control over media, and Biden himself falling apart at the seams. But they're still the strongest interest clique in America, and it wouldn't surprise me if they went as far as outright using Trump as a patsy to clear their opposition.

Gather all the "anti establishment" votes into Trump, then drop a bomb on him (Biden faction still controls the courts, establishment can even stick a pedophilia charge on Trump). Only issue is that Biden probably can't function as a puppet for 4 more years without falling apart.

We are seeing a power struggle unfold.
 
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The Supreme Court just decided to give Trump absolute immunity.

No, its going to be Trump all along.

If they really wanted to defeat Trump, they would have told Biden to step aside. Significant portion of voters don’t want either Biden or Trump. So anybody other than Biden would have a good chance of winning.

Instead, Biden says he’s staying put. He’s barely lucid half of the time. So who’s making these strategic decisions for him. Who advised him to have a national debate with Trump knowing it hurt him.
 
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Petrolicious88 said:
The Supreme Court just decided to give Trump absolute immunity.
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What? Immunity from "official acts as president" is by definition absolute immunity, especially since there's no chance establishment wouldn't be using an unofficial crime to pin Trump.
Petrolicious88 said:
No, its going to be Trump all along.

If they really wanted to defeat Trump, they would have told Biden to step aside. Significant portion of voters don’t want either Biden or Trump. So anybody other than Biden would have a good chance of winning.

Instead, Biden says he’s staying put. He’s barely lucid half of the time. So who’s making these strategic decisions for him. Who advised him to have a national debate with Trump knowing it hurt him.
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US supreme court is well known religious nationalist faction, they also ruled in favor for forced birth policies. More left hand fighting right hand moments.

Biden is almost certainly not gonna stay as puppet, when it gets close to election we'll get a more... Physically intact... puppet. That is, if the Biden faction wins the power struggle.

Either way, expect more prestige loss for America, even if power struggle doesn't go into shooting. Trump faction will be easier to defeat and contain, since they accept a measure of isolationism already. The worst case is establishment faction succeesfully couping and installing Kamala Harris or some other Stoltenberg type nazi. In that case, war may be imperative, because the establishment faction refuses to give up their revanchist claims in Asia.

Still, the rise of Trump is positive even if Biden's team keeps power, in that it will cost the establishment faction time, money and propaganda to purge all the trumpists.
 
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Hungary will not support NATO becoming 'anti-China' bloc, minister says​


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BUDAPEST, July 11 (Reuters) - Hungary does not want NATO to become an "anti-China" bloc, and will not support it doing so, Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said on Thursday.

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in Washington, he also said Ukraine's admission to the military alliance would weaken unity in the group.

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described China as a decisive enabler of Russia's war effort in Ukraine, and said Beijing continues to pose systemic challenges to Europe and to security. China
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the communique was biased and "sowing discord".

"NATO is a defence alliance... we can't organise it into an anti-China bloc," Szijjarto told Hungarian state television in response to a question about NATO's alliance-building efforts in the Indo-Pacific.
China is an important trade and investment partner for China.
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If the anglos are so committed to an anti China crusade, why don’t they throw down the gauntlet and let their own sons and daughters lead the way. A merchant slaver pirate nation like the five eyes lacks the cojones to pull off a Ghengis khan, and judging by chinas production of carriers, I sure hope conquest of the lands of the five eyes are on the cards. It’ll have to be like the Han campaign against eh Xiongnu, a multi decade intergenerational project to eradicate Anglo domination of the North American and Australian continents.
 
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If the anglos are so committed to an anti China crusade, why don’t they throw down the gauntlet and let their own sons and daughters lead the way. A merchant slaver pirate nation like the five eyes lacks the cojones to pull off a Ghengis khan, and judging by chinas production of carriers, I sure hope conquest of the lands of the five eyes are on the cards. It’ll have to be like the Han campaign against eh Xiongnu, a multi decade intergenerational project to eradicate Anglo domination of the North American and Australian continents.
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This is an odd story I saw this morning on cable news. My brain feels like exploding trying to figure out what these two authors are trying to say. They're peddling a book they wrote about how back during the Obama Administration, the Pentagon decided to partner with Silicon Valley and formed "Unit X" to create technologies of the future and they claim the results are being seen in Ukraine today. For some weird reason, they're citing enemy tactics from Ukraine to Israel to the Red Sea as examples of how the battlefield has changed. The US side isn't the one that's victorious there. Are they trying to claim the technology used comes from "Unit X'? All the conflict zones where they claim "Unit X" technology is being used are examples where their side is failing. Where's the scandal that all this new advanced US technology is falling into the hands of the enemy? They're trying to blame China for somehow getting into the supply chain of Boeing blaming them for the bad quality airliners being produced there. But no word here...?

Not sure why one of the authors cites riding in an F-16 over the Iraq/ Iranian border didn't have a map so he didn't know which country he was flying over and then mentions something that cost a $100. Is this an example of this amazing technology of what...? Then one of them mentions commercial technology. They brought up drone warfare and how M1 tanks are being destroyed in Ukraine. DJI drone technology has been at the forefront of drones being used for these purposes. Are they claiming DJI is using "Unit X" technology?

It's suspicious. Nothing makes sense. When the authors talk in the interview, they don't sound natural. The entire piece seems scripted with bad actors playing the roles. Is this really for dumb Americans to see to say how the Pentagon and the US are doing a great job so Americans shouldn't use their votes to change anything? Naturally Americans are going to assume that these "battlefield changing technologies" came from the US because why else would they try to take credit for victories by the enemy against their own side?
 
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This is an odd story I saw this morning on cable news. My brain feels like exploding trying to figure out what these two authors are trying to say. They're peddling a book they wrote about how back during the Obama Administration, the Pentagon decided to partner with Silicon Valley and formed "Unit X" to create technologies of the future and they claim the results are being seen in Ukraine today. For some weird reason, they're citing enemy tactics from Ukraine to Israel to the Red Sea as examples of how the battlefield has changed. The US side isn't the one that's victorious there. Are they trying to claim the technology used comes from "Unit X'? All the conflict zones where they claim "Unit X" technology is being used are examples where their side is failing. Where's the scandal that all this new advanced US technology is falling into the hands of the enemy? They're trying to blame China for somehow getting into the supply chain of Boeing blaming them for the bad quality airliners being produced there. But no word here...?

Not sure why one of the authors cites riding in an F-16 over the Iraq/ Iranian border didn't have a map so he didn't know which country he was flying over and then mentions something that cost a $100. Is this an example of this amazing technology of what...? Then one of them mentions commercial technology. They brought up drone warfare and how M1 tanks are being destroyed in Ukraine. DJI drone technology has been at the forefront of drones being used for these purposes. Are they claiming DJI is using "Unit X" technology?

It's suspicious. Nothing makes sense. When the authors talk in the interview, they don't sound natural. The entire piece seems scripted with bad actors playing the roles. Is this really for dumb Americans to see to say how the Pentagon and the US are doing a great job so Americans shouldn't use their votes to change anything? Naturally Americans are going to assume that these "battlefield changing technologies" came from the US because why else would they try to take credit for victories by the enemy against their own side?
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"unfortunately, the Chinese stole Unit X. Then afterwards, we accidentally forgot how to make the stuff from Unit X."
 
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This is an odd story I saw this morning on cable news. My brain feels like exploding trying to figure out what these two authors are trying to say. They're peddling a book they wrote about how back during the Obama Administration, the Pentagon decided to partner with Silicon Valley and formed "Unit X" to create technologies of the future and they claim the results are being seen in Ukraine today. For some weird reason, they're citing enemy tactics from Ukraine to Israel to the Red Sea as examples of how the battlefield has changed. The US side isn't the one that's victorious there. Are they trying to claim the technology used comes from "Unit X'? All the conflict zones where they claim "Unit X" technology is being used are examples where their side is failing. Where's the scandal that all this new advanced US technology is falling into the hands of the enemy? They're trying to blame China for somehow getting into the supply chain of Boeing blaming them for the bad quality airliners being produced there. But no word here...?

Not sure why one of the authors cites riding in an F-16 over the Iraq/ Iranian border didn't have a map so he didn't know which country he was flying over and then mentions something that cost a $100. Is this an example of this amazing technology of what...? Then one of them mentions commercial technology. They brought up drone warfare and how M1 tanks are being destroyed in Ukraine. DJI drone technology has been at the forefront of drones being used for these purposes. Are they claiming DJI is using "Unit X" technology?

It's suspicious. Nothing makes sense. When the authors talk in the interview, they don't sound natural. The entire piece seems scripted with bad actors playing the roles. Is this really for dumb Americans to see to say how the Pentagon and the US are doing a great job so Americans shouldn't use their votes to change anything? Naturally Americans are going to assume that these "battlefield changing technologies" came from the US because why else would they try to take credit for victories by the enemy against their own side?
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Behind every Chinese or Russia innovation in whatever field, there's a westerner that got his idea stolen.
 
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