Lmao no.
Actually do some proper research into the 1979 clash against Vietnam lol.
Also, classic 'new member'
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Actually do some proper research into the 1979 clash against Vietnam lol.
Also, classic 'new member'
Get your aids cured, blood bag...
If you and your slave society want war, go get it and leave...
China already proved it the first time around no?
Vietnam was curbstomped with horrific casualties at minimal losses for China. The goal was never annexation of Vietnam, just the takeover of the disputed border and quite literally to demilitarize an oversized military Vietnam had radicalized after the US-Vietnam war.
The idea was that a military and material loss would undermine Viet confidence in the pro-USSR faction, and at the same time limit the influence of the pro-western southern Vietnamese remnant.
It did succeed in turning Vietnam back to a friendly or at least friendly neutral country, although the southern faction was purged much later and probably not directly due to the war but rather later political plots.
Today, the boat on reintegrating Vietnam has largely sailed. Unless China can purposefully forment a new Vietnamese faction they can drum up as a legit threat, attacking Vietnam today would be tantamount to diplomatic suicide. Vietnam is a nominally friendly communist state with a stance of neutrality in military conflict. China going for them would be like USA attacking Sweden.
Agreed. Lets take a reverse position. The most compelling critics of China are other Chinese. This is why there is always a self hating Chinese promoting anti China news. It is in interest of imperialist power to foster self hating Chinese, not blanket attack. They made a major mistake attacking Russia hating Russian Oligarchs.
Going back to anti zionism. If you really want to destroy zionism, anti-zionist Jews are the greatest weapon. A lesson from the imperialists themselves.
If you agree the imperialist methods are insedious but effective, you must agree if used for good it is also effective.
supercat
Major
The policymakers of the Saudi regime have to be real imbeciles if they think the US regime can guarantee their security instead of getting rid of them if they show the slightest signs of disobedience.
Wishcasting is not a real plan. Whatever the US regime can deploy, China can muster 10 times more. Also, if it's such a wonderful strategy, why isn't it used in the Ukraine War?
India is chipping away China's lead in manufacturing little by little.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
All you have to do is mention the Korean War. When China entered the war, the US spent the rest of the war running away non-stop until China pushed the US half way into South Korea when the US called for a cease-fire. Americans hate it when it's depicted that way. Then to put a cherry on top, you say they don't call it The Forgotten War for nothing. Too many bad memories... They'll say that's what that means. Who cares? The Korean War is the US's first war they lost not Vietnam. And they've "lost" every war since then. That's how you put it.
Neither the US, fighting goat hoarders doesn't count as a real war experience against a near peer nuclear power. In fact it may be worse than building an army on peace conditions, it maybe that Western armies may have become adapted to the low intensity pace of guerrilla warfare and they are unable to adapt themselves and their economy to big war conditions.
Given how the Communist Vietnamese smoked two Western superpowers (France and the US) I would said that Chinese faired better.
US:
France:
China:
and they score some naval victories before and afterward.
"Vietnamese authorities increase their expulsions of overseas Chinese from Vietnam" - The link "overseas Chinese" points to Hoa people, "citizens and nationals of Vietnam that are full or partial Han Chinese". So Vietnam treating their own ethnic Chinese citizens badly is a victory point against China eh? Typical racist shit from Wikipedia.
You could have made an effort to ACTUALLY READ A BOOK OR TWO on this topic rather than simply regurgitating spurious and specious comments from YouTube, websites like Urz etc..that would obviously never give credit least of all context about the Sino-Vietnamese BORDER CONFLICT.
The PLA leadership was certainly underwhelmed and disappointed by the performance of its forces that attacked into Vietnam but it nevertheless successfully managed to enter Vietnam and achieved it's stated objective of entering deep into Vietnamese territory and then withdrew back into China once this was accomplished.
Put it simply, the Chinese achieved it's stated STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE which was to teach Vietnam a lesson NOT CONQUER OR OCCUPY (that's a western idiotic nonsense) and BLED VIETNAM'S ECONOMY DRY while also proving to the Vietnamese leadership that their patron saint at the time which was the U.S.S.R. was not in a position to help them fight China in any meaningful way short of nuclear war. Plus, the Chinese attack on Vietnam was also a showcase to the U.S. that China is a willing and capable strategic ally against what was then seen as SOVIET UNION EXPANSIONIST POLICY. China managed to convinced ASEAN member states including your country, the PH that China will help assist and defend against any Vietnamese expansionist ambitions in the region.
Do you even know why Vietnam and China fought? What was their relative weaknesses and strengths? The massive FINANCIAL, HUMAN, AND MILITARY assistance it gave and provided to the Vietnamese efforts, first against the French colonizer, and then eventually against the U.S.
What's the Philippines claim to fame in the realm of warfare, battles? Please don't event try to bring up the Moro, and other Islamic/Muslim groups in the Philippines since they don't consider themselves "Filipino" when the very name itself is taken literally from A KING OF SPAIN LOL...Sit down.
Implications of this are huge, imho this is US plan to extent the dollar hegemony forever...
(Musk is CIA from the getgo he is just putting on a fake show, so read beyond the headlines)
Overnight half the world will be using US based openai AI.... every apple device and iphone will have the latest chatgpt (as API) baked into the iOS....
Each and every one of these devices will be spying for Uncle Sam, and worst yet, this one move will ensure as cloud intelligence gets baked into every layer of every product and every service, that the world will be beholden to US AI services and this AI ecosystem will be gate kept on condition of using US dollar....
First gold, then oil, now AI is the final frontier of USD extension.....
With Apple and Nvidia as hardware, Google Play and Andriod, and Azure and OpenAI as the cloud and intelligence layer, this is the US plan to turn the tide around and make good on its PNAC plan that it enacted at the turn the century circa 2001
The anti Huawei campaign, the TSMC thing and EUV ban, its all come down to this moment. I feel like US is going all in and even jumping the shark on AI because its America's last real hope and best objective bet at beating China in the great power competition
Just like with Nvidia GPU once gamers jumped to DLSS and game devs baked that into their games, there was no going back and AMD cards never held a chance, the DLSS API held everyone captive... likewise US is attempting in one fell swoop to do the same but with openai and azure as the AI and cloud layer, getting the rest of the world onto its platform so it can start collecting usury tax yet once again, all spearheaded by the move of Apple baking in openai to its iOS....
Perhaps China's best bet is to rug pull while it still can and do AR sooner rather than later, maybe before end of 2024
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