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pmc

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Chinese tourist numbers to Aus are down alot compared to pre covid. Article cites a hot air balloon operator in Melbourne, Mandy Ho, who blames China "slowing" economy lol.

The article at least mentioned Chinese tourist numbers are up in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand etc but attributes it to Chinese being cheap as these destinations are closer to China plus now they are visa free but not Aus. Never mind that Chinese tourists are traditionally big spenders, probably the biggest among all foreign visitors.

Curiously she never mentioned why Aus isn't one of those many countries which have recent visa free arrangements with China. Nor did she mention the constant demonizing of China in Aus media as a possible reason Chinese are hesitant to visit. Maybe the fact that shitting on your biggest customer isn't a great way to attract them to come did not occur to her.

Anyway, I want to tell her to wake up her ducking idea. Politics is a big reason, Aus landscape is beautiful but it's not unique in the world. Many other places in the world have pretty scenery too lol

There many more destination that Australia will have to compete but this still very high number for Australia.
I think Mideast can reach several million Chinese tourists. UAE has now large Chinese presence.
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As Chinese scour for new adventures, the Middle East proved a popular Lunar New Year destination, with travel to Saudi Arabia up more than nine-fold from 2019 levels and bookings to United Arab Emirates climbing 60%, Trip.com said.

Russia received 800K Chinese tourists in 2023 and this January is up 2.5 times despite extreme weather.

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The FSB reported an increase in tourist flows to Russia by 3.5 times
The increase was due to trips to the country by citizens of China, Germany, the UAE and Turkmenistan

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The flow of Chinese tourists to Russia has increased 2.5 times


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Winter in Moscow turned out to be the snowiest in a quarter of a century

 

gelgoog

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West/East Germany could only peacefully reunify once USSR collapsed. North/South Korea and North/South Vietnam had violent struggles as neither supermaster patrons collapsed. Unless the US collapses, I don't see a peaceful reunification with Taiwan either. In fact, it's very unlikely Taiwan would just give up power without a fight. They are ethnic Chinese after all, they are not quitters.
Stalin proposed German reunification on the condition that Germany was to be a neutral country after reunification. Of course the US didn't agree with that. Since they wanted to conserve West Germany to use as a battering ram against the Soviet Union.
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supercat

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It seems that the closer Russia gets to victory in Ukraine, the more sh*t the US will try to stir up in Taiwan, forgetting that they can't even beat the sandal-wearing Taliban.

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north eastern India is already being overrun by monitor lizard rapists. What’s to stop them from saying they’re from assam and manipur and goin to Taiwan in large numbers to destroy a Chinese society the same way the anglos did to western nations?

I have covered this topic before
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Such racist rant by the Taiwanese minister gives me the vibe of some Israelis' reaction to Indian flattery, who just don't know better about Israel.

I prefer New Zealand, it's cheaper, the weather is perfect, The landscape are fantastic and the people are nicer.
Chinese should avoid Australia. Those ethnical Chinese who are already there must be very careful.
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That's quick.
 
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_killuminati_

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It seems that the closer Russia gets to victory in Ukraine, the more sh*t the US will try to stir up in Taiwan, forgetting that they can't even beat the sandal-wearing Taliban.
Would China conduct affairs differently in the Western theatre should US flair up Taiwan?

One thing I know is that the US has only known peace for 11 years out of it's 248 year history (95.5% of it's existence it has spent on war). I do not recall when the US was last at peace, not involved in some conflict. It is safe to assume that US will not sit idle for very long (less than a year) after it's loss in Ukraine and Afghanistan. It is already playing a military role against both Gaza and Yemen at the moment, but I expect a larger conflict incoming where it will be involved openly and directly.

Taiwan
North Korea
Iran
Boots on the ground in Yemen
Maybe Venezuela?

If it's clear that the US will not stop interfering in the east and antagonize China, then I don't see any reason why China doesn't reciprocate (like Russians do). Chinese equipment in middleast can turn the tables imo.
 
Would China conduct affairs differently in the Western theatre should US flair up Taiwan?

One thing I know is that the US has only known peace for 11 years out of it's 248 year history (95.5% of it's existence it has spent on war). I do not recall when the US was last at peace, not involved in some conflict. It is safe to assume that US will not sit idle for very long (less than a year) after it's loss in Ukraine and Afghanistan. It is already playing a military role against both Gaza and Yemen at the moment, but I expect a larger conflict incoming where it will be involved openly and directly.

Taiwan
North Korea
Iran
Boots on the ground in Yemen
Maybe Venezuela?

If it's clear that the US will not stop interfering in the east and antagonize China, then I don't see any reason why China doesn't reciprocate (like Russians do). Chinese equipment in middleast can turn the tables imo.

You forgot Mexico. US threaten to invade Mexico not too long ago to restrict the flow of immigrants and drugs.
 

Randomuser

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It seems that the closer Russia gets to victory in Ukraine, the more sh*t the US will try to stir up in Taiwan, forgetting that they can't even beat the sandal-wearing Taliban.


Such racist rant by the Taiwanese minister gives me the vibe of some Israelis' reaction to Indian flattery, who just don't know better about Israel.


Chinese should avoid Australia. Those ethnical Chinese who are already there must be very careful.
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That's quick.
Watching Indians get angry that Taiwan (born from a right wing party) has racists is always funny. It's also amusing how people go, I always knew those Taiwanese were just Chinese.

Just shows how weak this Taiwanese identity is if it can change so easily coz you made someone upset. Then again before 2016 they were supposed to be the real Chinese and all of a sudden they aren't? Seems like some meme identity that changes so easily depending on whos in power.
 

_killuminati_

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You forgot Mexico. US threaten to invade Mexico not too long ago to restrict the flow of immigrants and drugs.
That's unrealistic. 40 million Mexicans living in the US, huge porous border, countless armed Mexican gangsters inside both US and Mexico.. messing with Mexico is just asking for unnecessary trouble at home. Apparently, Mexican gangs are one of the largest employers in the country, involving 20% of the country's population.
 
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