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supercat

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If, however, China gets taken over by a new generation of leaders that aren't humble and feel entitled because they never saw struggle then its going to be in for a hard time. No country is that powerful that it doesn't need the world, if you think power is only about how big you think you are then you'll fuck around and find out. I'll say this again; do not take the goodwill China has built for granted. Nobody will "serve" China strictly because it's powerful. That's delusional.
Personally, I highly doubt this will be the case, for the simple reason that China practices socialism and has a Confucius tradition. As a result, China is and will be far less exploitative and arrogant than the typical Western colonists/imperialists. Insisting otherwise sounds like projection to me.

The West can't really sanction Russia, how can they possibly sanction or decouple from China? This is delusional.

Talking about delusional: NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg - "China is coming close to us (NATO)". Yeah, right.
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The truth about free market and competition in the West: we like these only when we are winning. As soon as there is some indication of competition from China' auto industry, legacy automakers and their advocacy group in the US immediately cry all the way to their government asking for protection.

Tesla-beating BYD and other Chinese carmakers using Mexico as back door poses ‘extinction-level’ threat to U.S. auto sector, warns trade group​

The fearmongering report of the advocacy group:
ON A COLLISION COURSE China’s Existential Threat to America’s Auto Industry and its Route Through Mexico
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However, just like some European automakers, Tesla and some others are worried about the disruption of supply chain such protectionism would cause.

Biden’s EV Dreams Are a Nightmare for Tesla and the US Car Industry​

Designed to cut China’s influence over global metals markets, the Inflation Reduction Act has also made life more difficult for US carmakers.

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"Resting on its side, but alive and well."
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
If you haven't heard, Mike Gallagher, leader of the US congressional anti-Chinese coalition is not running for his Congressional seat again.

Also I saw this ad on CNN. It was very cinematic. It was showing a Japanese Sushi chef preparing with care sushi for a customer. Then at the end of the ad all that it said was, "Japanese Seafood". Looks like Americans are avoiding Japanese seafood as well.
 

Africablack

Junior Member
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Who gives A FLYING TOSS about @Africablack says about China and his BELOVED WEST/INDIA. He does not speak for Africa, he's but A SINGLE PERSON that carries an opinion probably shared by he/himself/they and other pronoun brigades from the human rightist west he loves and loathes so much at the same time.

His understanding of China's history is just beyond PATHETIC its rather pedestrian, and yet, he struts his schtick projecting a very western precept and understanding to China. If China has the genes of WHITE WESTERN COLONIALISTS the preceding and succeeding DYNASTIES WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUILD THOSE DARN WALLS now famously known as the Great Wall of China.
If you don't think I speak for Africa then go to any African forum or walk up to any group of African and say the nonsense you're saying and watch their reaction. You know nothing about Africa or Africans. We respect China but don't take it for granted.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
If you don't think I speak for Africa then go to any African forum or walk up to any group of African and say the nonsense you're saying and watch their reaction. You know nothing about Africa or Africans. We respect China but don't take it for granted.
So a couple of things about what you're saying, not in this post in particular but overall:

1. You want China to respect the global south.
There are different types of respect. One type is respecting that you have your basic rights and they are not to be violated. You have this from us. China does not violate and colonize people like the West does. However, the second type of respect is viewing someone as your own equal or near equal. This you cannot have, or ask for, from anyone. This type of respect is only earned by your own power and competence and it is given to you automatically, regardless of alliance, based on your achievements.

2. You don't want the new boss to be like the old boss.
Yeah, but you do still have to realize they're both bosses. China can be a kinder boss who does not violate your rights or exploit you and even helps you out but you are not your boss's equal and do not confuse his kindness with him being on the same level as you. "Balance" doesn't mean that that power is distributed evenly regardless of national power. And unlike your old boss, this new boss can afford to not exploit you precisely because China gets our power from within and have plenty to dig from while the old one needs to suck power exogenously to make up for his own weaknesses.

3. China needs the world so don't waste the good will.
Whatever China gets from the world, we do not get it from their goodwill or because they support us in our rise. We deal for the things we get and we pay for them. We got them because we were the highest bidder and they were acting in their own interests to sell to the highest bidder. It is not uncommon that we need to be the highest bidder by a large margin to compensate for their fear of ending up in America's crosshairs for dealing with us. Oftentimes, we give freebies to the global south, never the other way around. And you traded these things to us for the benefits that we respond to you with. Don't make this sound like we got strong from your charity and support and now we're being arrogant and not acknowledging it. We rose on our own power and gave a bunch of you guys lifts up too on the way. If we're arrogant, it's because we achieved everything we got from our own power and we're achieving more than ever.

To end, I don't believe in forcing the weak to serve us; that is clearly evil colonialism. I believe in strongly rewarding those who support us and building mutually beneficial relationships with them so they can far outgrow and outstrip those who are stubbornly against us. Getting left back will be their punishment.
 
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Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
If you don't think I speak for Africa then go to any African forum or walk up to any group of African and say the nonsense you're saying and watch their reaction. You know nothing about Africa or Africans. We respect China but don't take it for granted.
LOL shut the hell up dude. You do not speak for Africa. You are just one tiny morsel speck of a person that holds a ridiculous opinion on geopolitics, history, and China. What nonsense did I utter? It's you BLEEP that should not take China for granted with your arrogant take when you are in no position to dictate terms from your non-existent power. There's no doubt that there are SOME African people that hold the same opinion you have but that does not mean MOST OF AFRICANS. You're one delusional man. Jai Hind. LOL
 
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