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hereforsemithread

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Come on, it is still a fringe theory. You have plenty of way to object to it without using random distractions.
The burden of proof is on him. He hasn't provided anything that was relevant to the video's actual contents. I'm not obligated to take someone seriously when they don't even take their own claims seriously.
 

_killuminati_

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The burden of proof is on him. He hasn't provided anything that was relevant to the video's actual contents. I'm not obligated to take someone seriously when they don't even take their own claims seriously.
Why I gotta provide it? The video itself provides so much detail: names, reports and even pictures of the convicts. But I provided some anyways (I know it's difficult for you to look at):

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You are obligated by the intersection of your guilty conscious with cognitive dissonance to manifest irrelevant drivel and nonsensical poppycock, in delusive attempts to divert the attention away from that which obviously stokes your insecurities. But it's not working.
 

manqiangrexue

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The fact that tons of people are willing to take considerable legal and health risk to enter the United States and face highly uncertain chances of staying shows that United States offers a substantial proposition to other people. Sustained economic growth for 2+ centuries cannot happen without generally good governance. Also, the “border” has always been an object of political spectacle for over a century - the Undesirable Aliens Act, for instance was passed in 1929
As it turns out, one can cruise for a fairly long time on a strong foundation that was previously created and a dogmatic reputation. For the US, it has both of those working for it. It was well-governed during its rise, thus causing its rise, and also, it was the world's premier power since WWII, allowing it to forge a lasting reputation as the foremost in the world in terms of modern and well-governed nations.

And because of these 2 factors, current governance cannot by judged by absolute current conditions but only by comparison to the past, in the context of world standards and the standards of its rival(s). With lagging infrastructure, decreases in living standards (caused mainly by costs rising much faster than salaries) and increases in crime, drug addiction, slums, poverty, etc..., the US is doing significantly worse than before, which I do attribute to poor management. That becomes even more obvious if you compare it to China, which is outperforming or at least accelerating faster than the US on all the critical fronts for national power (economics, technology, military growth). I can only conclude that the US is sputtering out of power due to its own internal problems and management mistakes but it is still quite fast from the inertia of its previous successes.

However, as I recall from our previous conversations, you think that it would be fine for the US to simply relinquish its global power and standings and just focus on yourself. You couldn't get this solution to be politically acceptable in America but that is exactly the bitter medication that the doctor prescribed as it will allow the US to once again focus its attention and resources to self improvement rather than trying in vain to sabotage China while leaving its own house neglected and out of order.
 

_killuminati_

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As it turns out, one can cruise for a fairly long time on a strong foundation that was previously created and a dogmatic reputation. For the US, it has both of those working for it. It was well-governed during its rise, thus causing its rise, and also, it was the world's premier power since WWII, allowing it to forge a lasting reputation as the foremost in the world in terms of modern and well-governed nations.

And because of these 2 factors, current governance cannot by judged by absolute current conditions but only by comparison to the past, in the context of world standards and the standards of its rival(s). With lagging infrastructure, decreases in living standards (caused mainly by costs rising much faster than salaries) and increases in crime, drug addiction, slums, poverty, etc..., the US is doing significantly worse than before, which I do attribute to poor management. That becomes even more obvious if you compare it to China, which is outperforming or at least accelerating faster than the US on all the critical fronts for national power (economics, technology, military growth). I can only conclude that the US is sputtering out of power due to its own internal problems and management mistakes but it is still quite fast from the inertia of its previous successes.
It might not be poor governance and mismanagement alone. AFAIK, it was lucrative to invest in developing tangible assets like infrastructure (which not only hold value for the investor but also has a functional element that serves society) up until the 80s/90s, during which time the US was still rising well despite it's perpetual involvement in war and foreign interference.

Then came a point that it became more lucrative (especially for the private sector) to invest in non-tangible financial assets like derivatives and government securities, most of which do not have any developmental effect in the real world. Consequently, things like infrastructure suffered. I don't see this reverting any time soon; on the contrary, I see it increasing, especially considering how powerful the corporate influence over the government has become.
 

TK3600

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The burden of proof is on him. He hasn't provided anything that was relevant to the video's actual contents. I'm not obligated to take someone seriously when they don't even take their own claims seriously.
Fair, thats still a better rebuttal than saying random unrelated shit.
 

chgough34

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As it turns out, one can cruise for a fairly long time on a strong foundation that was previously created and a dogmatic reputation. For the US, it has both of those working for it. It was well-governed during its rise, thus causing its rise, and also, it was the world's premier power since WWII, allowing it to forge a lasting reputation as the foremost in the world in terms of modern and well-governed nations.
Correct.
With lagging infrastructure
No: US commute times are among the shortest in the OECD (
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) and roads are better paved than they ever have been (see pg. 6,
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the U.S. also has the busiest airports (
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) are incredibly safe (
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it’s even trivial stuff such as the fact that it’s rare to need to boil water before drinking in most geographies or that air conditioning and indoor plumbing are far more common than they’ve ever been (
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and of course; public infrastructure spending is currently increasing at a very rapid clip (
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decreases in living standards (caused mainly by costs rising much faster than salaries) and
Median real wages are increasing, even as labor force participation is growing (adding more low wage workers which would bias the statistic downward):
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increases in crime,
No: crime has dramatically decreased
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drug addiction,
No, adolescent (focused on this age since it’s where data is most readily available and when most addictions start) addiction rates are down (
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however those with drug addictions just much more severe addictions (
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slums, poverty, etc...,
No, it’s actually decreasing -
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the US is doing significantly worse than before,
Better. The U.S. is doing substantially better than before in nearly every aspect. Americans are wealthier than they ever have been and deal daily with (US-originated) technology that even 30 years ago would’ve been considered black magic.
That becomes even more obvious if you compare it to China, which is outperforming or at least accelerating faster than the US on all the critical fronts for national power (economics, technology, military growth).
Correct. China is a reasonably well managed poor country experiencing catch-up growth.
However, as I recall from our previous conversations, you think that it would be fine for the US to simply relinquish its global power and standings and just focus on yourself.
Correct. I think it simply doesn’t matter for the United States which direction its foreign policy takes since the U.S. is so wealthy and so large that both serve to be prophylactic for the U.S. in the event of any foreign shock (exogenous or endogenous)
 
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pmc

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They're not struggling. These people are not humble farm hands or subjugated peasants, they are wealthy rural landlords who want to maximize their share of national income. They claim to be an oppressed, salt-of-the-earth class as a matter of political aesthetics, like how Americans making 200k a year and living in mcmansions go on about how rugged and working class they are and how "coastal elites" could never understand the common folk like them.The farmers simply replace a Ford F150 with a million dollar tractor.

This isn't a popular revolt, it's a bunch of landlords throwing a collective tantrum over the idea of giving up a bit of income so future generations could live on a healthy planet. In any civilized country they would be treated as such.
There will be very few million dollar tractor if any and most will be rental just like rental housing in Germany.

10k euro is catastrophe.
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"For a farm like mine, I would lose about 10,000 euros," said a farmer from Bavaria, Ralf Huber. "For our businesses, it's a catastrophe."
 

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