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The article just said the U.S. is large and heterogeneous; and taking the face value of averaging oecd and other estimates, the U.S. would be middle of the OECD pack with much larger sprawl. So infrastructure is fine.
None of your citations prove it’s getting worse over time; nor has anything about American governance changed since 2008 so the evidence of decline is weak. The fact that any present situation isn’t perfect compared to a hypothetical ideal isn’t news.
How do you handle large passenger volumes without competence? Planes, airports, and ATC doesn’t handle itself. The purpose of the safety cite was to show that air travel has gotten substantially safer over time - that’s good governance by the FAA.
They are citing to a bunch of other sources; most of which are DOT sources
well within the historic norm, not at all evidence of “decline”. The proclivities of TV editors are well, random.
Yes. COVID made everyone drive much more crazily and that will show up in all kinds of motor vehicle accidents (which are broadly down, )
Boiling the tap won’t solve pfas, arsenic, or lead lol. But regardless: the United States is improving and there are many problems are not contradictory. The Guardian doesn’t provide any evidence the problem has gotten worse, because in fact, water has gotten safer over time - .
No. The claim was things are getting worse than before. Yet, as the statistics clearly show: air conditioning and indoor plumbing have become much more frequent than before. That shows things are getting much better and it shows good governance. Facilities are infrastructure. Building regulations are governance.
Real incomes can rise but not for all items. Most people in the U.S. have fixed-rate mortgages (due to government intervention in Freddie and Fannie); so this is mainly stressing young people. This is indeed a problem that is getting worse, mainly from COVID, but it should resolve as housing construction is now booming - ,
Because other crime is much harder to measure because of reporting biases (some people are much more likely to report petty crime than others), the amount the officer cares, and differing definitions between states. Comparisons between time and between geographies are going to be measuring different things
When the United States is compared against its former self and/or other countries, the U.S. is generally doing better than it ever has and one of the best performers in the world. Doesn’t mean things are anywhere close to perfect
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The first one shows a y/y increase but that same survey also shows substantial declines in substance abuse disorders since the 1990s. The second one doesn’t show increases in drug abuse. They show increases in admissions for substance abuse disorders. So again, it’s not that drug abuse has increased; it has decreased but those with drug abuse disorders are much harder cases than before.
Premature sex is also a strictly negative risk that has declined substantially. Broadly on strictly negative health risks - those metrics have improved for everyone 20th percentile and above but the remaining individuals are worse off. That’s not evidence of “everything is worse”. That’s evidence of adverse selection and negative peer effects
Even retail lobbies recanted that claim:
No, actually. Non-violent misdemeanor crime such as petty theft is hard to measure because some people care to report and others don’t (but those patterns are not random), some police departments and prosecutors care and others don’t, and definitions are different both between time and across states. The most consistent measure across time, states, and individuals (violent crime) are uniformly down.
Main thing I wanted to show was the time-series graph on the census site showing the decline before 2020-2021 (the child tax credit) increase in 2022 from 2021 was due to the child tax credit expiring which cut into the incomes of lots of people. All poverty was declining prior to COVID and the large increases in fiscal transfers anyway ()
You claimed things were getting worse. They aren’t. Things are getting better.
No dispute here
It’s not. You wanted to argue things are bad when compared to a hypothetical ideal but when you bring out the time-series, it shows things are getting better in the U.S.
China’s GDPPC is $12K and is currently dealing with severely underdeveloped capital markets and a real estate/financial crisis. China is also growing slower than other Asian countries at similar levels of development. The cross sectional data is also worse for China in most metrics compared to the United States. Par the course for any developing country and of limited probative value but not evidence of super management you claim.
the U.S. and China are both reasonably well managed countries (key word, reasonably) with broad improvements in most policy areas; but since China is both larger and poorer, it will have faster growth as it converges to the technological frontier and catches up on physical and human capital formation.
Yes, yes, and no.
No. I don’t care. Whether the U.S. declares war on China or moves to accommodate China are irrelevant to the United States. That is my position.
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So we have confirmation that F-35's has successfully carried out the "bomb third-world places that are not likely to fire back" part of it's mission profile?
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Honestly with so many horrible things happening in the US that I've never seen before growing up, I imagined things to be worse than this. 45 people looting a store in broad daylight didn't used to happen when I was a kid. Stores telling employees that they cannot obstruct looters from exiting or chase them outside wasn't a thing when I was a kid. People curled up on the street in masses from taking Tranq didn't happen when I was a kid. I went to San Francisco and had a great memory of it but now the pictures are unrecognizable and the homeless encampments look like a third world country. I saw videos of tenants using the law and the wait times for a trial to essentially force landlords to let them live for free, and the US laws are increasingly supportive of tenant rights; and then to my shock, I saw that the vast majority of comments sided with the tenants blaming the greed of landlords for why they're struggling in the first place. Essentially, they think landlords deserve to be squatted on because they're trying to make money while others are trying to survive. Reminded me of the Cultural Revolution in China where being rich was evil. I saw the news filled with young Americans lamenting that they could never afford a house like their parents because housing prices went up 300% and salaries grew 30% in the same time. This signalled to me that things are getting worse in the US, however, I don't count on it being true because America's absolute decline was never a necessity or even expected to be true for China to surpass it.
I still don't know if, through all this, American is actually improving very slowly as your data suggests or if it's some instance where politicians in need of re-elections are playing their hand (since different sources have different data as there are discrepencies between your sources and mine) but the data that you show me does sink in and cast doubt. It seems that COVID is a point of inflection in many graphs so I'd doubt the usefulness of comparing to pre-COVID times. I'm not dead set on a narrative that the US is in absolute decline; its GDP certainly isn't.
I'm of the general opinion that despite the recent pain and complaining from the less financially-rooted Americans, that the country, as an overall (instead of just the living standards of the people), is still slowly rising; it's just that it's divorced from the common people because due to rivalry from China, America has had to devote more and more resources to competition rather that things to improve peope's lives.
If you're also of the opinion that China is simply moving much faster than the US regardless of America's current actual speed, then there's not fundamental difference between us here.
Depends on the measure. By PPP, it's about double that in 2023, with America at about $80K. Varies between IMF and World bank too but this just shows that China has a lot of potential for growth because it is not, overall, a developed country with slower developed country speeds.
Chinese markets work differently from American ones and it allows China to grow at its world-beating clip so I'd be cautious with any change.
What crisis? The GDP grows over 5%. China's control over its markets means that often, what amounts to a crisis in the West is just an adjustment for China.
There are no countries at similar levels of development to China; we are at a level of reaching autonomy while still charging to the forefront of technology. No other country has ever done this, especially not in Asia where Korea and Japan tethered their rise to subservience to America while North Korea's autonomy led it to become technologically poor. No other country can win a trade and tech war with the US and its Western henchmen and keep marching forth; there is no comparison to China.
I have no idea what data you are talking about but if you mean things like per capita income and personal wealth, then of course. The importance is that they are rising and China has much greater overall numbers.
Unsure what data but if they are to conclude that China's just like any developing country, then yes, severely limited, crippled probative value.
Well, if you're drawing evidence from things that you know are of highly limited probative value, then that's your error there. Rather China's management is shown through the fastest and largest proverty alleviation in human history and China, within a few decades, rising from a country that produced nothing worthy of mention to one that could challenge the highest standards of the world in basically every major technological field. Russia pisses the US off but there is no second country in the world that the US fears losing its title to other than China.
The US is "reasonably well managed" compared to its other developed country peers in Europe which honestly don't set a high standard. In that sense, it's probably better than average. But China is the best-managed country in the world doing things no other country can, faster than anyone's ever done it before (of the things they have), and improving (I mean actually improving its cutting edge technology and economy rather than just its GDP by doing business and selling out to richer countries) faster than any other competition.
Surprising, truly a live and let live American. Unfortunatly, the America you envision is not the America that most Americans and all American rulers envision, and so there must be struggle, self-harm and friction with China.
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Guess they wanted to vent frustration on inability to export EUV/DUV.
