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Serb

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Anyway, before answering this person's 'arguments'. I would like to preface by saying that it's best to completely ignore him as he's an extreme US fanboy (weird posting style, almost like a bot) and a major wishful thinker who can't change his opinion no matter what evidence he is presented with and will continue to troll now for 100 pages if needed to be, endlessly switching topics, just to appear 'right'.

Imagine saying that the US has a 'great' political system, governance, and administration, or whatever else of a similar nature, even comparing it with China, when you have tens of quantifiable results on this exact topic I keep on mentioning like here #30,082.

This is not based on feelings anymore, this can literally be checked with simple quantifiable data from polls (based on: happiness, satisfaction, polarization, depression, (il)legal drugs, suicides, crime of all kinds, safety, optimism, perception of the future, etc).

You can't troll your way out of this. If it's such a great system, why the extreme divisions of all kinds on historic levels from
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, almost civil war-like political and social divisions like environment, etc? Are we all blind/have wrong perception and he is only the smartest 4D chess hyper-genius who knows reality better? Am I wrong to trust my own eyes instead of his own wishful thinking about the US?



The fact that tons of people are willing to take considerable legal and health risk to enter the United States and face highly uncertain chances of staying shows that United States offers a substantial proposition to other people.


There are hardly any health risks associated with crossing the border into the US or that whole migration process in general, we are not living in the Middle Ages. What do you base this 'take' on?

And I'm not familiar that US border agents shot 1 illegal immigrant like ever out of tens of millions of them. So, minuscule 'health' risks.

What 'legal' risks are there then? Deportation in theory? That's the most they can get if they don't commit any illegal act.

The US has one of the most 'open borders' out of developed countries. At least during the democrat administration, they are their voters. So, their chances of 'staying' are fundamentally very high.


Sustained economic growth for 2+ centuries cannot happen without generally good governance.


Yeah, virtual growth on paper ends up only in the hands of the few. Meanwhile, those first two charts are from 2018 and don't show recent actual erosions of income for bottom percentiles that happened since then due to inflation since 2021, I had that chart before, can't find it.


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Also, the “border” has always been an object of political spectacle for over a century - the Undesirable Aliens Act, for instance was passed in 1929

Another cheap oversimplification. It is a bigger problem now, simply because it reached a certain threshold and keeps increasing.


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This is not related to your last posts, but more data on the American "excellent" governing system you mentioned here:


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CMP

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Anyway, before answering this person's 'arguments'. I would like to preface by saying that it's best to completely ignore him as he's an extreme US fanboy (weird posting style, almost like a bot) and a major wishful thinker who can't change his opinion no matter what evidence he is presented with and will continue to troll now for 100 pages if needed to be, endlessly switching topics, just to appear 'right'.

Imagine saying that the US has a 'great' political system, governance, and administration, or whatever else of a similar nature, even comparing it with China, when you have tens of quantifiable results on this exact topic I keep on mentioning like here #30,082.

This is not based on feelings anymore, this can literally be checked with simple quantifiable data from polls (based on: happiness, satisfaction, polarization, depression, (il)legal drugs, suicides, crime of all kinds, safety, optimism, perception of the future, etc).

You can't troll your way out of this. If it's such a great system, why the extreme divisions of all kinds on historic levels from
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, and
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, almost civil war-like political and social divisions like environment, etc? Are we all blind/have wrong perception and he is only the smartest 4D chess hyper-genius who knows reality better? Am I wrong to trust my own eyes instead of his own wishful thinking about the US?






There are hardly any health risks associated with crossing the border into the US or that whole migration process in general, we are not living in the Middle Ages. What do you base this 'take' on?

And I'm not familiar that US border agents shot 1 illegal immigrant like ever out of tens of millions of them. So, minuscule 'health' risks.

What 'legal' risks are there then? Deportation in theory? That's the most they can get if they don't commit any illegal act.

The US has one of the most 'open borders' out of developed countries. At least during the democrat administration, they are their voters. So, their chances of 'staying' are fundamentally very high.





Yeah, virtual growth on paper ends up only in the hands of the few. Meanwhile, those first two charts are from 2018 and don't show recent actual erosions of income for ordinary percentiles that happened since then due to inflation since 2021, I had that chart before, can't find it.


FT_18.07.26_hourlyWage_adjusted.png



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Another cheap oversimplification. It is a bigger problem now, simply because it reached a certain threshold and keeps increasing.


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This is not related to your last posts, but more data on the American "excellent" governing system you mentioned here:


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Maybe he is an actual bot or troll and you are just wasting your time. I put the likelihood at ninety percent.
 

Randomuser

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Anyway, before answering this person's 'arguments'. I would like to preface by saying that it's best to completely ignore him as he's an extreme US fanboy (weird posting style, almost like a bot) and a major wishful thinker who can't change his opinion no matter what evidence he is presented with and will continue to troll now for 100 pages if needed to be, endlessly switching topics, just to appear 'right'.

Imagine saying that the US has a 'great' political system, governance, and administration, or whatever else of a similar nature, even comparing it with China, when you have tens of quantifiable results on this exact topic I keep on mentioning like here #30,082.

This is not based on feelings anymore, this can literally be checked with simple quantifiable data from polls (based on: happiness, satisfaction, polarization, depression, (il)legal drugs, suicides, crime of all kinds, safety, optimism, perception of the future, etc).

You can't troll your way out of this. If it's such a great system, why the extreme divisions of all kinds on historic levels from
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, and
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, almost civil war-like political and social divisions like environment, etc? Are we all blind/have wrong perception and he is only the smartest 4D chess hyper-genius who knows reality better? Am I wrong to trust my own eyes instead of his own wishful thinking about the US?






There are hardly any health risks associated with crossing the border into the US or that whole migration process in general, we are not living in the Middle Ages. What do you base this 'take' on?

And I'm not familiar that US border agents shot 1 illegal immigrant like ever out of tens of millions of them. So, minuscule 'health' risks.

What 'legal' risks are there then? Deportation in theory? That's the most they can get if they don't commit any illegal act.

The US has one of the most 'open borders' out of developed countries. At least during the democrat administration, they are their voters. So, their chances of 'staying' are fundamentally very high.





Yeah, virtual growth on paper ends up only in the hands of the few. Meanwhile, those first two charts are from 2018 and don't show recent actual erosions of income for bottom percentiles that happened since then due to inflation since 2021, I had that chart before, can't find it.


FT_18.07.26_hourlyWage_adjusted.png



FT_18.07.26_hourlyWage_increases.png





Another cheap oversimplification. It is a bigger problem now, simply because it reached a certain threshold and keeps increasing.


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This is not related to your last posts, but more data on the American "excellent" governing system you mentioned here:


NYPICHPDPICT000010086805.png



Americans-being-proud-to-live-in-the-United-States-2022-by-generation.png


Americans-who-are-proud-to-be-Americans-Republicans-Democrats.jpg
I wonder do mods need to step in again. They stepped in the China economics thread for similar reasons.
 

chgough34

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Imagine saying that the US has a 'great' political system, governance, and administration, or whatever else of a similar nature, even comparing it with China, when you have tens of quantifiable results on this exact topic I keep on mentioning like here #30,082.
The US & China are both broadly, well managed, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t problems. When the government performs well - it simply doesn’t get noted; planes that don’t crash, water that isn’t contaminated, buildings that don’t collapse, banks that are performing, insurers that are performing, etc - all of these require substantial public governance interventions but once mostly resolved, simply are banished to the boring pages of the industry-specific publications.
You can't troll your way out of this. If it's such a great system, why the extreme divisions of all kinds on historic levels from
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No. The political environment is not “civil-war-like”. Most bills introduced in the U.S. Congress are bipartisan (
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) and it’s even higher in state legislatures (
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). Vibe-based survey data is lagged TV theatrics (
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Do you really think Karen will fight in a civil war when the only thing she has to lose is her McMansion, a giant pile of tbills and a giant pile of S&P500 index funds? No. Of course not. Wealth is prophylactic.
There are hardly any health risks associated with crossing the border into the US or that whole migration process in general, we are not living in the Middle Ages. What do you base this 'take' on?
The health risk of crossing thousands of miles of land from Central America in often desolate territory is self-explanatory.
What 'legal' risks are there then? Deportation in theory? That's the most they can get if they don't commit any illegal act.
They will be banned from ever being able to enter the United States legally on any visa (student, tourist, work, etc). This was one of the key provisions of IRRIRA.

The US has one of the most 'open borders' out of developed countries. At least during the democrat administration, they are their voters. So, their chances of 'staying' are fundamentally very high
So no. In the short-run, an increase in minorities makes white voters more conservative with ambiguous long term effects. (
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) and since these new migrants aren’t citizens (and therefore can’t vote) and can’t be for a decade+, the electoral advantage to democrats is negative. The US also grants very few refugee/asylee visas or greencards in any given year (
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Yeah, virtual growth on paper ends up only in the hands of the few. Meanwhile, those first two charts are from 2018 and don't show recent actual erosions of income for lower percentiles that happened since then due to inflation since 2020, I had that chart before, can't find it.
It’s not paper wealth when median home sizes have increased (
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), obesity has increased (proxy for food consumption), and suburban sprawl is bigger than ever before (
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). When consumers are able to afford more housing, transportation, and food (the three big components of consumer budgets) than ever before, that has to imply an increase in income (and is obviously real wealth).
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Another cheap oversimplification. It is a bigger problem now, simply because it reached a certain threshold and keeps increasing.
No.

further, the “encounters” are people trying to enter the U.S.;there can be no determination on actual entry status ( )


the claim that somehow Hispanic entrants are going to be detrimental is both racist, and provably wrong. Texas, California, Maryland, Nevada, New Mexico, and DC are all minority-majority. Texas and California very recently so. Calamity has not stricken those states: in fact, most are wealthier than the United States as a whole. The racial resentment will remain latent and/or die out (younger generations are far more racially liberal), again, Karen will not risk her 500K in her 401(k) and will stick to voting and posting on Facebook to express her racial resentment.

, immigrants are net fiscal contributors (
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) and Hispanics are largely converging to non-Hispanic whites in education, housing, income, and wealth (
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- summarizing the literature)
This is not related to your last posts, but more data on the American "excellent" governing system you mentioned here:
Violent crime is actually down substantially since the 1990s (
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), as is always the case, it’s just TV reporting for views (
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) The measured decline in patriotism from survey instruments is really just a proxy for liberals being disgruntled at inequality and social conservatism (
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The party of the imprisoned former prime minister of Pakistan, Imran Khan, won the most seats in parliamentary elections this week, delivering a strong rebuke to the country’s powerful generals and throwing the political system into chaos.

While military leaders had hoped the election would put an end to the political turmoil that has consumed the country since Mr. Khan’s ouster in 2022, it has instead plunged it into an even deeper crisis, analysts said.

Never before in the country’s history has a politician seen such success in an election without the backing of the generals — much less after facing their iron fist.

In voting on Thursday, candidates from Mr. Khan’s party, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, or P.T.I., appeared to win about 97 seats in the National Assembly, the lower house of Parliament, the country’s election commission reported on Saturday. The military’s preferred party, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz, or P.M.L.N., led by a three-time former prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, won at least 73 seats, the commission said. Only seven seats were left unaccounted for — not enough to change the outcome as reported by the commission.

While candidates aligned with Mr. Khan were set to be the largest group in Parliament, they still fell short of a simple majority — setting off a race between the parties of Mr. Khan and Mr. Sharif to win over other lawmakers and establish a coalition government.

Leaders of Mr. Khan’s party also said they planned court challenges in dozens of races that they believe were rigged by the military, and said they would urge their followers to hold peaceful protests if the remaining results were not released by Sunday.

The success of Mr. Khan’s party was a head-spinning upset in an election that the military thought would be an easy victory for Mr. Sharif. Ahead of last week’s election, Pakistan’s powerful generals had jailed Mr. Khan, arrested candidates allied with him and intimidated his supporters to clear his party from the playing field — or so they thought. Instead, the election results confirmed that Mr. Khan remains a formidable force in Pakistani politics, despite his ouster and subsequent imprisonment.

On Friday evening, Mr. Khan’s party released a victory speech using a computer-generated voice to simulate that of Mr. Khan, who has been jailed since August. “I congratulate you all for your election 2024 victory. I had full confidence that you would all come out to vote,” the A.I.-generated voice said. “Your massive turnout has stunned everybody.”

The success of Mr. Khan’s party upended the decades-old political playbook governing Pakistan, a nuclear-armed nation of 240 million. Throughout those years, the military has wielded ultimate authority, guiding its politics behind a veil of secrecy, and civilian leaders have typically risen to power only with its support — or been driven from office by its heavy hand.

The vote also showed that Mr. Khan’s strategy of preaching reform and railing against the military has resonated deeply with Pakistanis — particularly young people — who are disillusioned with the political system. It also proved that his loyal base of supporters was seemingly immune to the military’s old tactics for demoralizing voters, including arresting supporters and issuing long prison sentences to their political leaders days before the vote.

Mr. Khan, a former cricket star turned populist politician, was sentenced to a total of 34 years in prison after being convicted in four separate cases on charges that included leaking state secrets and unlawful marriage, and that he has called politically motivated.
Three of those verdicts were issued just days before the vote — an old tactic used by the military, analysts say. But early estimates show that around 48 percent of the voters turned out for the election, according to the
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, an organization of civil society groups. Voter turnout in the country’s past two elections was about 50 percent, the organization said.

The results were “both an anti-establishment vote and also a vote against the status quo, against the two other major political parties that have been ruling the country and their dynastic politics,” Zahid Hussain, an analyst based in Islamabad, said, referring to the military as the establishment.

Without a simple majority, most analysts believe it will be difficult for Mr. Khan’s party, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, or P.T.I., to form a government. Some P.T.I. leaders have also suggested that the party would rather remain in the opposition than lead a weakened coalition government with Mr. Khan still behind bars.

Despite lagging behind in the polls, on Friday Mr. Sharif gave a victory speech in front of a crowd of supporters of his party, P.M.L.N. He also invited other parties to join his in forming a coalition government, suggesting that such a coalition would not include P.T.I.
“We are inviting everyone today to rebuild this injured Pakistan and sit with us,” he said in a speech in Lahore, the capital of Punjab Province.

But any coalition Mr. Sharif manages to form will face serious political challenges. The coalition government led by P.M.L.N. after Mr. Khan’s ouster was deeply unpopular and widely criticized failing to address an economic crisis that has battered the country and sent inflation to record highs.

The incoming government is also likely to face a serious legitimacy crisis. The election on Thursday has also been criticized by some as one of the least credible in the country’s history, and delays in releasing the election results have led to widespread allegations that the military tampered with the vote count to tip the scales back in P.M.L.N.’s favor.

With P.T.I. promising bruising and lengthy court battles over the results, it could be some time before any party manages to form a government.

“We will pursue all legal options, and we will pursue all constitutional options,” said the P.T.I. leader, Raoof Hasan.

Kindly asking for more insight on this from people in/from Pakistan.
 

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I dont think he will understand this interview even in one year because interview does not have any substance and he was also wrong about second part that Russia is not expansionist power. Russia is expansionist power but this time it may create an Arabic Empire and that Empire will be at expense of Europe and anyone depended on Europe. you remove Ukraine. the source of grains for countries like Turkey and global south comes under control of Arabs.
Serbian president in previous interview gave hint to Tucker about Gulf States empowerment. Tucker completely ignore that part.
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Possibly with the exception of long term, Russia and empowering everybody outside of the Gulf States, China, Turkey.”
 
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