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_killuminati_

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China's demographic decline is the funniest cope when it often comes from anti-china white/anglo people whom are usually also the same group of people to hate other "color" people. White/Anglo are also not reproducing at sufficient replacement rates. All of the growth in their countries are coming from "minorities" and immigrants.
At the same time they are harping elsewhere that AI will replace labor in the future and leave everybody jobless.
 

Randomuser

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China's demographic decline is the funniest cope when it often comes from anti-china white/anglo people whom are usually also the same group of people to hate other "color" people. White/Anglo are also not reproducing at sufficient replacement rates. All of the growth in their countries are coming from "minorities" and immigrants.
There should a projection rule whenever you hear the west talk about China. It what is supposedly happening in China happening in the west and might be worse?

They'll call this whataboutism even though it only applies to unrelated subjects because this rule will keep flagging up.

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Apperently the PLA has a recruitment shortage. Either this is a massive cope or something pretty serious for the CCP to adress.

Case in point. We've been hearing about how the US can't get enough troops.
 

emblem21

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Cars, workplace accidents, drugs, and guns have nothing to do with “risk-taking behavior”? Obesity being rampant has nothing to with diminishing returns in nutritional quality in life expectancy?





No, they aren’t. Healthcare itself isn’t a big determinant of life expectancy because it’s only used in any large quantity by a few select chronically ill people, and the entire world is flocking to the U.S. - ex., Massachusetts General and Mayo Clinic; for healthcare procedures and willing to pay hand over fist for them. Plus Americans rate their own experience with healthcare to be very positive (
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). This of course, is not to say there aren’t problems.

The sampling frames are not the same; the U.S. has a much more adversely selected sampling frame. When you only allow the top 40-60% in many oecd countries to take the Pisa, that artificially biased upwards the Pisa scores in those countries. If an adversely selected American panel is performing as well as a positively selected European panel, that means in any like to like comparison, the U.S. tops most of the OECD easily.

Yep. Both the U.S. & China are reasonably well managed countries with quite good governance and good program administration.
You have got to be kidding me if you honesty think that the USA has good governance or a good administration with everything falling apart right now. For evidence at this, look no further then the Texas border
 
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kuro

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Damn, maybe he was not overpaid after all. Money well spent.

Some follow-up news; it looks like there some repercussions from Messi's no-show:


According to the accompanying Fortune article, 'The refund means the luxury lifestyle brand will record a loss of HK$43 million from the event, instead of a planned profit of HK$13 million, according to the statement.'
 

emblem21

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Cars, workplace accidents, drugs, and guns have nothing to do with “risk-taking behavior”? Obesity being rampant has nothing to with diminishing returns in nutritional quality in life expectancy?





No, they aren’t. Healthcare itself isn’t a big determinant of life expectancy because it’s only used in any large quantity by a few select chronically ill people, and the entire world is flocking to the U.S. - ex., Massachusetts General and Mayo Clinic; for healthcare procedures and willing to pay hand over fist for them. Plus Americans rate their own experience with healthcare to be very positive (
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). This of course, is not to say there aren’t problems.

The sampling frames are not the same; the U.S. has a much more adversely selected sampling frame. When you only allow the top 40-60% in many oecd countries to take the Pisa, that artificially biased upwards the Pisa scores in those countries. If an adversely selected American panel is performing as well as a positively selected European panel, that means in any like to like comparison, the U.S. tops most of the OECD easily.

Yep. Both the U.S. & China are reasonably well managed countries with quite good governance and good program administration.
You have got to be kidding me if you honesty with that the USA has good governance or a good administration with everything falling apart right now. For evidence at this, look no further then the Texas border
 

B.I.B.

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Could you actually critique specific points?

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@siegecrossbow

For example, here is one from Peter Zeihan that I listened to for 30mins last week before I gave up:
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During this interview, the 3 biggest lies that Pete Zeihan said with utter conviction were the following:

EDIT. I see this Peter Zeihan video is almost at 400K views. And the host simply was out of his depth because he couldn't spot the obvious lies.

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1. China has up to 3 billion empty apartments and that the Chinese property market will crash to pennies on the dollar

However, the best estimate is that there are up to 80 million empty apartments, so Peter Zeihan has exaggerated by 37x.

And if you think about it, China has 474 million households.
Another 3 billion empty apartments means the average family in China would have 6 empty properties.
It just doesn't make any sense.

Source
fortune.com/asia/2023/09/25/china-housing-crisis-how-many-vacant-homes-evergrande-country-garden/
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2. China would collapse due to lack of fuel and food from a US naval blockade

Remember meat was a luxury for most of humanity's existence.
But if you do the calculations, China's state grain reserves have over 2 years of grains stored for an emergency.
China also maintains a policy of 90% self-sufficiency in terms of grain production.
Plus China can still import food and fertiliser from Russia for example.

As for oil, in the past year, TPHuang and myself independently did some calculations on the forum which indicated that [Chinese domestic oil production + Russian imports] would probably be enough for self-sufficiency, if China wasn't exporting goods anymore.

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3. China will definitely collapse within 10 years due to demographics

China's working age population in 2024 is currently 984 million.
In 2034, it is expected to be 943 million.
So a 5% decline in working population is going to cause a collapse?

The Chinese overall population is going to be broadly stable, plus I expect the retirement age to be increased.

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In many ways, his thinking is similar to another China is going to "financially collapse" in Michael Pettis who is A economics professor at a Chinese university.
 

chgough34

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You have got to be kidding me if you honesty think that the USA has good governance or a good administration with everything falling apart right now. For evidence at this, look no further then the Texas border
The fact that tons of people are willing to take considerable legal and health risk to enter the United States and face highly uncertain chances of staying shows that United States offers a substantial proposition to other people. Sustained economic growth for 2+ centuries cannot happen without generally good governance. Also, the “border” has always been an object of political spectacle for over a century - the Undesirable Aliens Act, for instance was passed in 1929
 
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