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Biscuits

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I pose that question and scenario no matter how remote the possibility due to the fact that America/west are really great with cultural, political, economic, and ultimately complete subversion of a disputed place. Like the case with Ukraine's Donbass, South Korea, Japan, Europe, Latin America, Africa, the Philippines and TAIWAN.

Just look at the latest hubris and incredible ignorance of this supposed "PROFESSOR" post on X:


This situation can't be allowed to go unabated as it'll seal the Fate for an armed clash with China.
When China needs to do it, they also have major brainwashing power. Just look at Xinjiang going from literal ISIS town into likely one of the most vocally pro Chinese areas in less than a decade.

Separatists on Taiwan are majorly screwed whichever way one lays it up. Because Beijing has fully separated it's economy from Taiwan, frankly speaking they can reduce the whole province to a wasteland without affecting the 30 trillion $ economy of the mainland.

The current leadership has made pledges to do negotiation with the anti government leaders. This is a common solution in many civil conflicts internationally. But if they fail, they will either have to change the method or be replaced by a different leadership.

Because Taiwan does not contribute to the national economy at all, even a solution where the future of the province is an Israel like landscape of perpetually bombed and starved masses of separatists interspersed with dots of settlements populated by mainland imported people, the net effect to China's national security and economy will be positive, not negative.
 

Biscuits

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If you allow this affair to continue for too long, you will have Taiwan going the way of Annam which became Vietnam or Outer Mongolia, even despite china's massive soft power pull for Chinese speakers. The Anglos will turn Taiwan into the Sinosphere's hermit kingdom, a nuisance 'north korea' to China, the way north korea is to the US.
Given the history of Japanese/western genocidal invasion and occupation against Chinese people, should Taiwan become indefensible and the lives of the locals become assumed as forfeit at the hands of invaders, it is most likely the policy of China to destroy both the province and nearby hostile cities through nuclear means.

The nuclear posture of China permits nuclear retaliation against non nuclear attacks, only in the event that said attacks on China threaten a massive numbers of civilians, which per definition a succesful Taiwan invasion would be, as there's more than 23 million people living there.
 

pmc

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Putin in an interview said this about 2 weeks ago. He naively believed the west and Russia would no longer need to clash with each other after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Later becoming convinced that the West was waiting for chance to completely dismantle and disintegrate Russia.
Putin and naively believed? I dont think that case with Putin since he was tourist in 90s. what was that Erdogan name attached to Kamov chopper. now Russia make dumb statements from time to time or portray West as unreliable. just yesterday they claimed hitting a luxury hotel in Kharkov claiming people sitting there made decision about MLRS strike. if you are so informed that already know people are in hotel than why not strike earlier.
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certain things are on the record like this 2006 Saudi visit about creating multipolar world before his Munich speech. alot of things happened before that and certain things could not happened due to divisions in islamics world.


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Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Lavrov stayed on a working visit to El Riyadh on May 21-22. He was received by Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques and King of Saudi Arabia Abdallah Ben Abdel Aziz Al Saud, to whom he conveyed a message from Russian President Vladimir Putin, met with First Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense and Aviation Crown Prince Sultan Ben Abdel Aziz Al Saud, Secretary General of the National Security Council Bandar Ben Sultan, and held thorough talks with Minister of Foreign Affairs Saud Al Faisal.
The discussions centered on questions of the formation of a multipolar world
 

eprash

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Im pretty ignorant on this. How did a danish company become the biggest shipping company in the world? Denmark is not a shipping hub. Most of the shipping hubs are in Asia. I would have thought it would be based in Asia
Same reason Dutch became a big player in semiconductors, Nordic countries are very professional when it comes to business they have some cultural elements similar to Japan that I hope to see China would emulate in the future
 
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