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Sardaukar20

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China is still no1 tho. And US might have its own ways to not get as bad growth as EU, but they're still not on route to catch up anytime soon.
I get what you mean. But the Murica #1 and China Sucks guys are still gonna claim that USA is still #1 due to its Nominal GDP. Nevermind GDP PPP, and other economic metrics that China had already exceeded the US. Next time, when China hits #1 in Nominal GDP, these haters are still gonna say that the USA is #1 in GDP per capita. There is no winning with these haters.

What matters to me most is that China is prosperous and safe. They can keep changing the goalposts, but it won't change that China is either #1 or at least competitive in the metrics that matter most.
 

tamsen_ikard

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You really think this is the only reason of deflation? When there are more products than demand, there is a deflation. It goes two ways:
  1. Production remains unchanged, consumer's demand reduces, price goes down. This is what you expected. This is usually bad.
  2. Production increased, consumer demand stay unchanged, price goes down. This is what you ignored.
Deflation is just reflection of the balance of supply and consumption, itself isn't good or bad.

Honestly, from reading many posts from you, I think you have a tendency of cherry-picking the convinient "truth" to fit your wish.

No, that's actually Western dogma 101.

Here in reality, what's happening is Chinese producers are becoming more efficient and productive.

People always say inflation is here because "Too much money chasing too few goods", people who watch western economic bullshit always focus on the too much money. But you hardly hear then china enjoys deflation might it be that china has scored some really nice commodities contracts witm talk about the too few goods, so what is the reasoh Russia like access to cheap food and gas.

That ft article is misinformation. Core inflation was positive at 0.6%. You can make your own judgement on why the ft fails to mention that. But clearly core inflation shows that private consumption is doing ok. Not strong, but not weak either. The overall inflation figure is massively affected by pork prices, so it's kind of irrelevant


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If production is becoming more efficient, which I assume they are, that can mean two things:

1. It is possible to make goods with the same quality, features cheaper
2. it is also possible to create more sophisticated product with the same price

When an economy is booming and people have money in their pockets, they would go for the product with better quality with the same budget.

But in China, Maybe there is deflation cause people are going for goods with lower quality but also lower prices.
Moreover, you already see in the news how many Chinese products are slashing prices to entice customers cause there is not enough demand from customers. Why? Cause they are too cautious to spend or they don't have money to spend. When consumers are saving money, that's bad for the economy. Then government needs to spend more to takeaway their fear and also boost businesses which will in turn hire more people and thus raise consumer confidence to spend.


How? Well China needs to print more money and take on more debt! This is the American model of doing it. This is simply kicking the can down the road and inflating the bubble even bigger. This is a narcotic fix that has left America as sick as it is today. For you to propose this kind of fix for China, shows how shallow your understanding of economics is. Or maybe you desire for China to self-destruct like America, and the West.

But I know how you might argue back. "Oh but America is still the #1 economy today. Its still growing and is still unstoppable. Your 'smart and mighty' China is still only #2, and is not doing too well already. So shut up! The economic 101 gurus were right, and you are wrong. China doesn't know what the hell they are doing, and they are goin down baby. USA #1 forever!" Go ahead, I won't argue with you.

BTW, I am not suggesting China should continue to inflate existing bubbles. That doesn't mean China should not do more Stimulus. China is already doing the right things when it comes to spending. It is spending to boost Semiconductor and other self-reliance initiatives for example. It is spending in affordable housing for the poor which will again be a great help in terms of boosting consumption and raising living standard for the poor.

But, its not doing enough. it should boost these initiatives several times more. China as the biggest economy in the world should have the confidence to spend more with fiscal and monetary expansion when they are in deflation. Its actually a great opportunity to do monetary expansion. What is bad is stagflation, when there is a recession and inflation at the same time. China has great ammunition to expand with fiscal and monetary stimulus. But they are too cautious and think like they are a poor country like Thailand, Indonesia and the likes. But they are not.
 

Biscuits

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I get what you mean. But the Murica #1 and China Sucks guys are still gonna claim that USA is still #1 due to its Nominal GDP. Nevermind GDP PPP, and other economic metrics that China had already exceeded the US. Next time, when China hits #1 in Nominal GDP, these haters are still gonna say that the USA is #1 in GDP per capita. There is no winning with these haters.

What matters to me most is that China is prosperous and safe. They can keep changing the goalposts, but it won't change that China is either #1 or at least competitive in the metrics that matter most.
Theres no comparing gdp without first calculating inflation... It's like a 200 pounds obese 150cm tall woman saying she's fitter than a 250 pounds 190cm tall bodybuilder because she's lighter lmao

If you don't calculate for inflation, at any time a country experiences hyperinflation, they will just rocket past every other country... Despite their economy not having changed.

I mean American nationalists can still claim some stuff such as US having a more complex/mature economy, higher per capita income etc. They can even question the gdp calculation method of China itself. But to claim larger absolute size is nonsensical.

Sure, ultras from any country will make up claims from thin air like Koreans saying they once ruled all of north east Asia, western communists saying Cuba has better living standard than US etc etc. So I will not consider those as serious words and rather focus on what is verifiably based on real info.
 

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Is this the first time that this is explicitly stated?
I don't think China is fearful of a war in the South China Sea either. However, China should laser-focus on Taiwan.

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TK3600

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"The jews" are just placeholder until the new enemy script has been written. They will blame everybody except western oligarchs etc..
Western Oligarch are largely Jewish. They are just that good at making money no matter where.
Indeed my Ivy League chauvy. The same people who say "I don't hate Chinese people, I only hate CCP" are now more than happy to equate criticism of Israeli government with Anti-semitism.

It's deeply disingenuous to equate anti-Zionism with Anti-semitism, and suppress freedom of speech by equating "from the ocean to sea" anti colonialism with genocide of Jews. US only pretends to be free speech leader. It's all a blatant lie and distraction.
Don't you know, Jews are the only Semite, just like Jews are only victim of the Holocaust?:rolleyes:
 

pmc

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Many were already wealthy, and then converted to being Jew, in other to benefit from Jewish circles (loans, investment, connections etc.).
They also have very important contribution to academia over long period of time and research. some people may be good in research not necessary can become good professors.
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When speaking about certain prolific figures in Hungarian science in the early 1900s, some of their western colleagues suggested that they might as well be from Mars with their heavily accented English and superhuman intellect.
A running joke in scientific circles at the time was that Martians had landed in Hungary sometime around 1900 but soon departed after finding the planet unsuitable. However, these higher beings stayed just long enough to leave behind offspring, which turned into exceptionally brainy scientists, later nicknamed ‘The Martians.’ The moniker included five scientists, all Hungarian Jews, all born between 1881 and 1908: Theodore von Kármán, John von Neumann, Leó Szilárd, Edward Teller, and Eugene Wigner.
 

martinwagner

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Anyone here have read or looked into yet another "conspiracy theory" going around X involving the recent incident with an individual named James Woo (Korean-American) who was alleged to have blown up his own home, due to an alleged mental issues.

According to this X post, James Woo's passing is not what it seems nor is as simple as a man going through mental breakdown due to an impending divorce. There's supposedly a cabal of American defense, intelligence retired officials involved in the matter. And as a matter of fact, James Woo is the son of CIA connected parents both of whom were involved heavily during the early days of the South Korean Republic. James Woo himself was the head of a defense/intelligence company with global reach.

Like something out of the Jason Bourne films!
 

emblem21

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It honestly amazes me at times at how utterly childish these people are that they think they can simply turn off the fight in Ukraine and they work to turn Russia against China like as though it is a merely switch they can press. it’s laughable as well as sickening.

I might sound like a jerk here but one thing that I notice here is the the the typical western person in particular the American person has never truly experience a true sense of loss, like what the Palestinians, suffer on a regular bases mostly thanks to America actions. Which why heartless
idiots Like John Mearsheimer makes moronic statements as though the USA can continue these global plays like they matter when in reality, the reason for this multipolar world push is because the world is getting fed up with this bullshit where they can moralize on everything as though they are knights in shining armor while they kill woman and children on the other side of the global as though they mean nothing amongst other things.

this might sound very dark but the only way that the USA can regain its standing as a respected nation in the world is to go though what China has gone through during the hundred years of humiliation (a term that the USA loves to use while gloating like a c$&t that most of us Chinese would love to take a jack hammer to the ding ding for to be honest) and not complain about it while they suffer all its indignities and far far more and longer for its entitled and selfish behavior that the world has been made to suffer from these people for so very long. Really it’s only when they understand what real suffering is that they learn not to inflict the same thing towards other as though they are Gods chosen because right now, it’s more then evident that they may as well be the devils chosen instead. There will come a time when what these Palestinians now suffer due to the USA unconditional support to Israel will eventually be something that the USA will be made to suffer as a consequence and while it is something I normally don’t wish upon other normally, this is something the USA must go through to finally understand a key lesson that their racism and hatred of others and their inability to practice what they preach from the Bible they love to quote but absolutely do not what to hear or do, ‘DON’T DO ONTO OTHERS WHAT YOU DO NO WISH TO BE DONE UNTO YOU’ a very simple lesson that unfortunately the USA is simply to stupid to not understand is also applied to them even now and will be in the coming years be made to understand this the hard way until they very last drop of this cowboy mentally is bleed dry forevermore
 
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