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eprash

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No, I reported him and he's done. He's an embarrassment to China. They say extreme arrogance is just a veneer for insecurity. I wouldn't be surprised if the person who talks like that ended up someone with no achievments in life at the bottom of society. Meanwhile, the Chinese professionals with muscles and good looks who will actually power China's rise are usually polite and humble.

Edit: Oops, I thought you said posts "don't" get reported.
Spot on, This is something Chinese government should work on, reclusive young adults who were beaten by life turn to comfort like inherent superiority belief to feel better about themselves, When eastern Europe was poor following Soviet collapse one common theme was and still is resurgence of Orthodox religion and Nazism both are escape for young people from real life to feel better about their crushed dreams, There should be re education centers for them to help mature and integrate back into society
 

KYli

Brigadier
Spot on, This is something Chinese government should work on, reclusive young adults who were beaten by life turn to comfort like inherent superiority belief to feel better about themselves, When eastern Europe was poor following Soviet collapse one common theme was and still is resurgence of Orthodox religion and Nazism both are escape for young people from real life to feel better about their crushed dreams, There should be re education centers for them to help mature and integrate back into society
Oh please, compare with Hindu nationalists and White supremacists, they are just boastful and racist but have done no harm to the society or the world.
 

ZeEa5KPul

Colonel
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So suddenly, the US is the shining beacon we should follow?
You know the part where they booted the Europeans out of their hemisphere? I very much would like to follow that. The rest doesn't need to be followed.
Defeating foreign military presence near China is correctly done by China growing so strong that America's Asian bases become pointless in the face of Chinese power, like if North Korea leased a base in Venezuela.
It just doesn't work that way. They're not going to reach across the table like in a professional board game tournament and shake your hand when their position becomes hopeless. Worse, this sort of thinking is counterproductive because it indicates China lacks the will to fight. If they think that, it doesn't matter how much the balance of physical power tilts in China's favour because they think China isn't willing to fight.

For what you advocate to work - the "winning without fighting" thing - China must telegraph a willingness to fight. Japan must understand that continuing to host US forces is intolerable and that China is willing to wage war to change it.
Telling other countries they have no right to say no to China or they will face obliteration is exactly the American attitude that must be wiped from the earth.
Don't strawman my position. I didn't say they don't have the right to say no to China across the board; they don't have the right to say no when it comes to critical, core issues of Chinese national security. Like hosting foreign forces to contain and threaten China. Furthermore, coercion does not imply military force, and military force does not imply obliteration. There are a range of measures from economic sanctions to embargoes to blockades to military action to compel regime change.

The only time "obliteration" is a consideration is when China is responding to a nuclear attack.
 

azn_cyniq

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No, I reported him and he's done. He's an embarrassment to China. They say extreme arrogance is just a veneer for insecurity. I wouldn't be surprised if the person who talks like that ended up someone with no achievments in life at the bottom of society. Meanwhile, the Chinese professionals with muscles and good looks who will actually power China's rise are usually polite and humble.

Edit: Oops, I thought you said posts "don't" get reported.
I don't agree with 56860, but there are many incredibly successful people who share his viewpoints. I know a couple of white, Jewish, Chinese, and Korean people who attribute at least part of their success to their genes. For some reason, those people like to attribute their success to their genes and not their own hard work.

Genes will not lead the Chinese people to greatness. Passion and creativity will
 

taxiya

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Spot on, This is something Chinese government should work on, reclusive young adults who were beaten by life turn to comfort like inherent superiority belief to feel better about themselves, When eastern Europe was poor following Soviet collapse one common theme was and still is resurgence of Orthodox religion and Nazism both are escape for young people from real life to feel better about their crushed dreams,
Why do you think he is actually a Chinese? He could be from any place who pretend to speak from a Chinese perspective for the purpose of tarnishing the reputation of Chinese people as a whole.

There should be re education centers for them to help mature and integrate back into society
I don't think one should expect any government to do things to this extent, government is not kindergarten. We have to live with some maniacs around us, that is life. The only thing that you can expect from government is formal education teaching the right thing (not your re-education center), and monitoring and surpressing such maniac voice.
 
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manqiangrexue

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You know the part where they booted the Europeans out of their hemisphere? I very much would like to follow that. The rest doesn't need to be followed.
Well you can't. The door closed and the ship set sail over a century ago. The Monroe Doctrine was made in a different time. Today is an international community. You cannot declare that no one else may have a present military in the countries surrounding you because the whole world will know you as a bully. China actually has an outstanding reputation among non-Western supporting nations. To declare to all Asian nations that they will face Chinese military action if they exercise their rights to form bonds with Chinese rivals will resound loud and clear that supporting China over the US is like kicking a king off his throne to install an emperor.

The Chinese people are a morally-upstanding people. If you tell Japan/Korea to vacate US forces and they refuse, you will need to call on the Chinese military according to your logic. Chinese soldiers are trained to hate Japanese and American imperialism. They may follow orders with gritted teeth to offensively attack a foreign military but to carry out the invasion which involves attacking civilian centers, they will not follow you. The Chinese people at home, who have watched decades of Chinese dramas protraying imperialism as the ultimate evil, will not tolerate this behavior and if they do not revolt, you will at the very least see a lack of support worse than the US experienced during the Vietnam War. I personally find a China that behaves like this unworthy of my devotion.
It just doesn't work that way. They're not going to reach across the table like in a professional board game tournament and shake your hand when their position becomes hopeless. Worse, this sort of thinking is counterproductive because it indicates China lacks the will to fight. If they think that, it doesn't matter how much the balance of physical power tilts in China's favour because they think China isn't willing to fight.
I used no strawman; this is a strawman. I didn't say they will shake your hand and admit defeat; I said that they will eventually find it useless and financially draining when it becomes apparent that their military is hopelessly outmatched in Asia and getting repeatedly humiliated. Furthermore, China can build military bases in South America either as bargaining chips for the US to withdraw from Asia or to strain the American military to the point where they need to go home and take up defensive positions rather than stay out in Asia.
For what you advocate to work - the "winning without fighting" thing - China must telegraph a willingness to fight. Japan must understand that continuing to host US forces is intolerable and that China is willing to wage war to change it.
There's a big difference between telegraphing a willingness to fight, such as flexing over the ROC, vs telegraphing horrible bully syndrome by openly declaring that your interests must supersede other's sovereignty.
Don't strawman my position. I didn't say they don't have the right to say no to China across the board; they don't have the right to say no when it comes to critical, core issues of Chinese national security. Like hosting foreign forces to contain and threaten China. Furthermore, coercion does not imply military force, and military force does not imply obliteration. There are a range of measures from economic sanctions to embargoes to blockades to military action to compel regime change.

The only time "obliteration" is a consideration is when China is responding to a nuclear attack.
It's not a strawman at all. Telling others that they don't have the right to say no on their soveriegn soil just because it is against Chinese interests is bullying. It's what will turn all of China's allies against China as they see that once in power, China will be a tyrant that enforces its will on others. The message should be that hostility towards China, when conducted within one's own rights, will be met the reciprical Chinese hostility within our rights. To resort to war when others are simply exercising their sovereignty to your detriment is an act of extreme desperation and helplessness not to mention moral depravity.
I don't agree with 56860, but there are many incredibly successful people who share his viewpoints. I know a couple of white, Jewish, Chinese, and Korean people who attribute at least part of their success to their genes. For some reason, those people like to attribute their success to their genes and not their own hard work.

Genes will not lead the Chinese people to greatness. Passion and creativity will
Often, our genetics make our successes possible. All the champions of the world are extremely genetically talented in what they do. Races can be characterized by genetic leanings as well, for example, Jamaicans are talented at dash events, Kenyans at distance-running, East Asians at weightlifting, Caucasians at swimming, etc... Mentally, it'd be a denial of truth to say that East Asians aren't a very smart and innovative people who specialize in scholastic excellence.

BUT it is a whole new world of shit to say that the genetics of your race are supreme in the world and they give you rights to rule over other inferior people by force.
 

Chevalier

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Not surprising at all. A family member lost her court case as defendant for a Japanese furnace manufacturer. The case involved an accidental death related to an improper maintenance of the said 40-year old industrial furnace by the US client. The offending client is nearly backrupt and the manufacturer was targeted and held liable for the accident and was ordered to pay compensation.
That’s typical of the Anglo American mindset to transfer blame and scapegoat.

You know the part where they booted the Europeans out of their hemisphere? I very much would like to follow that. The rest doesn't need to be followed.

It just doesn't work that way. They're not going to reach across the table like in a professional board game tournament and shake your hand when their position becomes hopeless. Worse, this sort of thinking is counterproductive because it indicates China lacks the will to fight. If they think that, it doesn't matter how much the balance of physical power tilts in China's favour because they think China isn't willing to fight.
It’s actually worse than that; Anglo societies simply don’t view non western, non white nations and people as human, and you can see this with how readily they accept nuking of Asian people and the ongoing pogroms against asians as well as the ridiculous establishment assertion that only died a few years ago, that “asians can’t innovate, they can only copy and steal”.

The historical record has proven that in a weird bdsm way, the Anglos only respect power, nuclear power at that.
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A modern Chinese nuclear arsenal comparable to the American or Russian stockpile, and armed with hypersonic vehicles provides an insurance policy against Anglo tendencies to commit genocide against Chinese.
 

taxiya

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I don't agree with 56860, but there are many incredibly successful people who share his viewpoints. I know a couple of white, Jewish, Chinese, and Korean people who attribute at least part of their success to their genes. For some reason, those people like to attribute their success to their genes and not their own hard work.

Genes will not lead the Chinese people to greatness. Passion and creativity will
I am sure those "Chinese" are not Chinese but Americans. Same goes with those "Koreans" and "Japanese". In a typical Chinese culture society (China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam) a person would thank/attribute their success to their parents, their teacher/mentor/friends and their hard working in that order. They will NEVER ever attribute that to their genetics which is just another way of saying I am born smart.

A person speaking like you discribed would only get scorn. Chinese culture to this day respect a person of group member, not a self glorifying smart ass. This aspect of Chinese culture is one important reason of Chinese as a whole looks down on the western racism, as idiotic and hubris.
 
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