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KYli

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“I think the Chapitos started feeling the pressure when they increased the reward for their capture. I think they are trying to create a massive illusion to take the pressure off," he said. “It’s almost like a big campaign to convince the U.S. they’re not involved. It’s nothing more than pure propaganda,” Vigil said.
 

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Even educated Europeans are desparate for a Silicon Valley visa, since there's nothing to keep the EU economically relevant in the digital age. Its a culture shock to priveleged foreigners, including Chinese, who long for a life where everyday is supposedly sipping an espresso and eating a gourmet ham sandwich at a quaint sidewalk cafe. But Europeans have ambitions too and one can only admire the architecture and bikeability of European cities for so long before its time to grind like anyone else and in the EU there's simply nothing to advance your career or bring your idea to fruition.
do you have data Europeans desperate for Silicon valley visa? Except for some narrow fields which California is famous. why do you think Europeans cannot advance there career in Europe. They have EU Horizon Programme which Israel is part of it. few thousand make there way i doubt they stay long term. The Silicon valley office of naturalization is only 2.5% of the total per year and than inside that total you will have to find those Europeans and than figure out whether they are even the best in field. Even in nobel prize only older generation of europeans are affiliated with american universities and prize is now almost equally distributed among EU and US. Europe decline is not due to Silicon Valley being attractive but there own policies.
 

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China doesn't even have a particularly high emigration rate. Net emigration of 310,000 people is about 0.22 per 1000 population. By comparison, the Germany experienced a net emigration of 83,000 Germans last year, a rate of about 1 per 1000 people. However, this has been compensated by a huge influx of foreigners, resulting in total net immigration of 1.5 million people, an extremely high rate of 1.8%. If they continue doing that, the country will be majority foreigners soon. Obviously that's not a great strategy
To double in UAE and that include covid period seems high number. MBS going to add 20 million in less than 8 years. Alot of Europeans and perhaps Chinese can be attracted to it.
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At present, the number of Chinese citizens living in the UAE is estimated at 400,000, he noted. This means the community has doubled in size since 2019 when the population was estimated at 200,000. Around 6,000 Chinese enterprises are also operating in the UAE, Yiming added.

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The Saudi leader pointed out that the Kingdom's population in 2030 will be between 50 and 55 million, compared to the current 33 million. Therefore, he stressed that in that year "the maximum capacity of Saudi Arabia's existing infrastructure will be reached".
 

OTCDebunker

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Do you have any books as recommended reading?
I actually don't enjoy reading all that much. Bad ADHD and probably a little bit of neurodivergency, but if it's possible to find older History Channel and/or Discovery Channel segments before the History Channel came out with Ancient Aliens then that might not be a bad start. Early 200s or so.

Also, I usually focus on specific things rather than just broadly covering too much of everything. For that reason I don't particularly recommend Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States". Even though I fully admit that most people probably will like that book, but then they don't have bad ADHD or neuro-divergency either (most likely).

However, I do know that the Anasazi (spelling?) and Pueblo were a subject that seemed fascinating since they carved their homes into mountain rock with no 'modern' tools to speak of. Even for their time periods, and they are also interesting b/c they are one of those "mysteriously disappeared" peoples. Similar to Ancient Minoans...nobody knows what happened to them. One day they were doing fine. Then in a quick (in historical measurements) turn of events they were gone but no solid explanation.

As for Mesoamerican stuff. The big 3 always has enough to get anyone started.

Aztecs, Incas, and Mayans were quite advanced.

Tenochitlan (spelling?) should not exist actually. It's supposed to be a straight up body of water pretty much. Only engineering (again with no metallurgy and stone tools pretty much) is able to build a vast city floating over water/swamps pretty much.
 

OTCDebunker

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I messed up my previous response and don't know how to delete it so posting again.

I actually don't enjoy reading all that much. Bad ADHD and probably a little bit of neurodivergency, but if it's possible to find older History Channel and/or Discovery Channel segments before the History Channel came out with Ancient Aliens then that might not be a bad start. Early 200s or so.

Also, I usually focus on specific things rather than just broadly covering too much of everything. For that reason I don't particularly recommend Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States". Even though I fully admit that most people probably will like that book, but then they don't have bad ADHD or neuro-divergency either (most likely).

However, I do know that the Anasazi (spelling?) and Pueblo were a subject that seemed fascinating since they carved their homes into mountain rock with no 'modern' tools to speak of. Even for their time periods, and they are also interesting b/c they are one of those "mysteriously disappeared" peoples. Similar to Ancient Minoans...nobody knows what happened to them. One day they were doing fine. Then in a quick (in historical measurements) turn of events they were gone but no solid explanation.

As for Mesoamerican stuff. The big 3 always has enough to get anyone started.

Aztecs, Incas, and Mayans were quite advanced.

Tenochitlan (spelling?) should not exist actually. It's supposed to be a straight up body of water pretty much. Only engineering (again with no metallurgy and stone tools pretty much) is able to build a vast city floating over water/swamps pretty much.

The stuff about their tools being the sharpest comes from the fact that they used Obsidian. Magma after cooling down. Its ability to maintain the sharpest edge is straight lethal territory.

Also, the construction techniques and engineering of places like Macchu Pichu and modern-day Peru is also incredibly advanced stuff. Again these guys were doing it in high-altitude conditions in a rocky mountain with no real arable land.

For lolz at alleged murikkkan military and western military supremacy myth debunking just simply stick with the Commanche.

Note: even in the late 1800s they were the last indigenous in America to still hold out all by their lonesome selves and were wreaking havooc on the Texas cowboy, countryboy rednecks until force of numbers finally did them in. They knew long ago that they weren't going to win no matter what...the time for that was maybe 2 centures ago, but they were determined to die fighting and they certainly put up a helluva fight.

Commanches are yet more proof that European and western warfare sucks at cavalry for some reason. Remember that it was actually the Europeans who even introduced horses to the Americas in the first place.

The land bridge between alaska and siberia disappeared before horses could make their way across back those 10s of thousands of years ago. If horses could've ever survived in that climate that is.

So Commanches and indigenous had absolutely no idea what horses even were before Europeans came, and despite being genocided by diseases, plague, alcohol, drugs, an enemy far more technologically advanced than them in terms of warfare, and more factors they managed to master horsemanship so much that it took industrialization and mass production even after smokeless gun powder, rifling grooves, and modern minet/spitzer-shaped bullets appeared to finally subjugate Commanche warriors.

I would personally start with the Commanche vs Texas stuff and then actually go backwards in time since the further back you get the more it becomes evident just how much more even the indigenous were against westerners.

Then there's some of the more well-known examples.

Cherokee Trail of Tears for how awful and shitty Americans were to a people who cooperated with them. Mostly women, children, and elderly being the victims. For even more specificity look up the atrocities of Andrew Jackson when he was still just a military officer. Since he is one of the worst war criminals in that time period. It's fucking disgusting and sickening what he did to them.

The 1820s - 1840s were a particularly bad period for Cherokee and also some of the more eastern indigenous tribes.

If you want some good historical fiction though try "The Last of the Mohicans". Still my favorite movie of all time. Hands down. No argument. End of discussion.

Daniel Day-Lewis movie.

But the main character is part of a series. The Adventures of Natty Bumpo.
 

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US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will reportedly travel to Israel, the West Bank, Saudi Arabia and Morocco in the third week of October as the Biden administration works to broker a peace deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Israel's 24NEWS, citing American diplomatic sources, said that Blinken had first planned to visit Israel and the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, but has now added Saudi Arabia and Morocco to the trip.

Israel Hayom reported that Blinken is expected to arrive in Israel Oct. 17, though the date is not yet official. Israeli public broadcaster KAN reported on Monday that talks between Israeli and American officials have begun to organize Blinken’s regional tour.

However, Kan said that officials within the Biden administration disagree on the extent of the concessions Israel would have to make to the Palestinians in an American-brokered deal for the normalization of ties between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Several of Netanyahu’s coalition partners currently oppose any significant conciliatory moves.

Apart from those concessions by Israel, Saudi Arabia would also like approval to establish a civilian nuclear program on its soil, a defense treaty with the United States and advanced American weapons.

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Dude thinks he is Wang Yi.
 

OTCDebunker

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2nd gen immigrant in Italy here, I can confirm that many chinese have returned or are considering returning home.

Economic stagnation/recession and rampant racism especially among civil servants and police forces create a horrible enviroment to live in and to raise your children.
I always hear about people saying that Italy is a particularly surprisingly racist place. My closest experience is my mother took a trip there one time and people thought she was Japanese until she pulled out the American passport, and then instantly the hostility and negativity would go away and they become nice all of a sudden.

Is it that bad?
I feel like it takes a very specific kind of mentality (hint hint the self-hating kind) for a Chinese person to actively pursue emigration to a European country these days, especially a Nordic one at that. Most of the second gen diaspora Chinese I've met who grew up in Europe desperately wanted to leave.

There's plenty of reasons still. Despite their impending doom.

The truth is that Europe is still better for most people until you get to a bare minimum of 7 figures of net worth. In USD that is.

Even at 7 figures you must still think very hard and carefully about whether or not you can maintain that level of income or that quality of life in a completely different employment market and demand market. Not to mention the numerous other deeply personal choices like if you even like living in the U.S. Or would enjoy living in a poorer and not as developed country. Not to mention just simply being separated from your people and being the outsider.

IMHO it's not until you can get to 8 figures of networth (this is doable for just doctors and lawyers...you just need to be a good one) that the U.S. becomes and undeniably better place to be.

Reason being that Europe's social services, culture towards combating exploitation and abusive employers, and overall benefits of living in a society that isn't completely consumed by greed and selfishness still puts it miles ahead of the U.S.

Norway I believe gives you 8 weeks or possibly 7 weeks of PTO annuallly as a federal law! That alone makes it enticing for someone who just doesn't care about climbing the ladder anymore and simply wants to enjoy life.

but the other social services is enticing as well.

Can't be fired without the employer proving that you actually did suck at your job andddddd that the employer took multiple, numerous, and earnest-effort steps to try and get you to perform up to minimal standards. That's a straight law for most of Europe BTW.

In reality, the culture is also different regarding employment law. In the U.S. even if you had a law like this then the only thing that would happen would be people gaslighting employees they don't like until their performance or something else suffers badly enough to warrant documentation lthen they would simply make completely bad faith efforts to try and document proof that the employee is failing rather than just trying to help, and finally fire teh employee. In Europe, this kind of toxic culture and overall attitudes of shitbaggery and shittiness to human beings is not nearly as tolerated or acceptable.

Of course, the whole free healthcare, free education, long unemployment, etc. is leagues ahead of what the U.S. offers.

Not saying that there aren't problems with Europe. The non-euorpean European citizens that I've talked to have all mentioned that you are most certainly an outsider and they let you know it...albeit not necessarily in aggressive or hostile ways all the time, but it will happen sooner or later. Also, it's true that in the long run Europe is likely doomed to become what they were before the Renaissance...a violent and warlike shithole.
 

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Another politically motivated article that doesn't state all the facts. China's net emigration bottom out on 2012 due to the Great Depression and the resilient of the Chinese economy at that time. Due to COVID, 2020 and 2021 have abnormal low number of net emigration. Unless, the Western economy went into deep recession, the net emigration out of China would still be in high number for a few years.

Beside, if most of these professionals are willing to take a pay cut for emigration, then it is the best for them to leave. As most of them are probably burned out and have no ambition anymore, it is the best that their job vacancy would be opened for those young graduates that desperately wanted good paying jobs.
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In the 1980s and 1990s, when China was poor, its best and brightest sought to study and work — and stay — in the West. Emigration, on net, peaked in 1992 with more than 870,000 people leaving the country, according to the
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. That number fell to a low of roughly 125,000 in 2012, as China emerged from poverty to become a tech power and the world’s second-biggest economy.
The Chinese government worked hard to keep them, rolling out incentives to
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scientists and other skilled people. In 2016, more than 80 percent of Chinese who studied abroad returned home, according to the
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, up from about a quarter two decades earlier.

The trend has reversed. In 2022, despite passport and travel restrictions, more than 310,000 Chinese, on net, emigrated, according to the U.N. data. With three months to go this year, the number has reached the same level as the whole of 2022.

Ms. Zhang, 27, a computer programmer, felt the hustle culture of Silicon Valley was too similar to China’s grueling work environment. After putting in long hours at a top tech company in Shenzhen for five years, she was done with that. She also sought a country where women were treated more equally. This year, she moved to Norway. After paying taxes for three years and passing the language exam, she will get permanent residency.

Ms. Zhang said she didn’t mind that she was making about $20,000 less than in Shenzhen, and paying higher taxes and living expenses. She can finish her day at 4 p.m. and enjoy life outside work. She doesn’t worry that she will be considered too old for employment when she
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, a form of discrimination that many Chinese experience. She doesn’t live in constant fear that the government will roll out a policy like “zero Covid” that will turn her life on its head.

Most of the tech professionals I talked to took a pay cut when they emigrated. “I feel like I’m paying for liberty,” said Mr. Zhou, a U.S.-educated software engineer who quit his job at an autonomous-driving start-up in Beijing. He now works at an automobile company in Western Europe. “It’s worth it,” he said.
What the NYT article reveals foremostly is not that China is really having a "brain drain", instead, it exposes the real reason why the collective West can't compete with China anymore.

Just pretending of doing something but actually doing nothing. War on drugs failed decades ago.
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What's next? A shortage of fentanyl for cancer patients in the US?

No genocide in Xinjiang? No worries, we will just accuse them with "culture genocide"!
"Culture genocide":

Zhang Yufei is beautiful.
 
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