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Chish

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That's total theft. As the largest shareholder, Sinochem can actually exercise none of its rights
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Italians are actually merciful. China should thank them instead



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A very bad precedent has been set. How can present and future commercial contracts be guaranteed in Italy?
 

muddie

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That's total theft. As the largest shareholder, Sinochem can actually exercise none of its rights
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I've been following the Pirelli story from the start and this is a very serious provocation by Italy. It's less than a billion Euros but I hope it doesn't get swept under the rug and elicits a strong response from China.

This could very likely set the precedent on how U.S. and U.S. allied companies target Chinese assets overseas. Chinese firms hold sizable equity stakes in many U.S. and EU companies, and by denying shareholder rights just because the shareholder is Chinese, it is basically a robbery and partial seizer of property in law.

If China doesn't respond, many companies can follow similar steps and take action against Chinese shareholders under "security concerns".
 

montyp165

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I've been following the Pirelli story from the start and this is a very serious provocation by Italy. It's less than a billion Euros but I hope it doesn't get swept under the rug and elicits a strong response from China.

This could very likely set the precedent on how U.S. and U.S. allied companies target Chinese assets overseas. Chinese firms hold sizable equity stakes in many U.S. and EU companies, and by denying shareholder rights just because the shareholder is Chinese, it is basically a robbery and partial seizer of property in law.

If China doesn't respond, many companies can follow similar steps and take action against Chinese shareholders under "security concerns".
When it comes to business, Chinese have never been ones to hold back on countering threats to their financial interests, so there will be a reckoning in one form or another.
 

muddie

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I've been following the Pirelli story from the start and this is a very serious provocation by Italy. It's less than a billion Euros but I hope it doesn't get swept under the rug and elicits a strong response from China.

This could very likely set the precedent on how U.S. and U.S. allied companies target Chinese assets overseas. Chinese firms hold sizable equity stakes in many U.S. and EU companies, and by denying shareholder rights just because the shareholder is Chinese, it is basically a robbery and partial seizer of property in law.

If China doesn't respond, many companies can follow similar steps and take action against Chinese shareholders under "security concerns".
Just to add, Sinochem could consider just dumping their Pirelli stake and China make a statement questioning the viability of investing in Italian companies. There is nothing strategic about holding Pirelli for China.

Further retaliation against Pirelli should be communicated behind closed doors, especially in regards to their tire sales in China.
 

supercat

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I need a vomiting emoji.

According David P. Goldman, the US is impossible to decouple from China because it wasted trillions on wars of choice instead of manufacturing, industrialization, and infrastructure.
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And of course, US' problems did not start after 9/11, it started right after WW2.

You have to see the whole picture. China will generate approximately 150,000 millionaires a year in the next few years.
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Meanwhile, the free and democratic India probably loses far more millionaires each year proportionally. And you wonder why?
 

Chevalier

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I've been following the Pirelli story from the start and this is a very serious provocation by Italy. It's less than a billion Euros but I hope it doesn't get swept under the rug and elicits a strong response from China.

This could very likely set the precedent on how U.S. and U.S. allied companies target Chinese assets overseas. Chinese firms hold sizable equity stakes in many U.S. and EU companies, and by denying shareholder rights just because the shareholder is Chinese, it is basically a robbery and partial seizer of property in law.

If China doesn't respond, many companies can follow similar steps and take action against Chinese shareholders under "security concerns".

Just to add, Sinochem could consider just dumping their Pirelli stake and China make a statement questioning the viability of investing in Italian companies. There is nothing strategic about holding Pirelli for China.

Further retaliation against Pirelli should be communicated behind closed doors, especially in regards to their tire sales in China.
Basically Italy took the Anglos' side; this should have been evident from the way Meloni passionately demanded weapons to be sent to Ukraine as though she was going to get her whole family killed if she didn't.
Italy can no longer be considered neutral, especially after what happened with BRI in Italy. So let it wither. Italia delenda est.
Bunch of racists and wannabe white supremacists anyhow, which is hilarious considering italians are one tan away from being considered brown.
 
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