Miscellaneous News

supersnoop

Major
Registered Member
You know, now that I think of it, this sounds like total bullshit.

Although I did not read the article, but the basic fact is that those boats been submerged in seawater for a few decades.

Won't it rust?

Who in their right minds would want to take the expense to salvage a rusting hulk for scrape?

Total bullshit.

So I am beginning to doubt that any of this happened at all. Except for it could have been for archeology purposes.

Good thing I did not read the article.

As for this forum, I think 90% would like to believe this happen, maybe even me too!

:D
Doing a bit more research, the steel is called “low background steel”. It is not necessarily “high-quality” just having the quality of not being contaminated with radionuclides.

It is true that scrappers are the main source of this type of steel and shipwrecks are raided for it.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Of course, if you read closely, this is not some exclusive Chinese activity, boats from Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. are all doing it. Also the demand is worldwide, so a lot of people not asking any questions. So really, still no excuse for the basically racist tone of the original article.
 

Chish

Junior Member
Registered Member
Be careful about buying Indian generic drugs.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!



Children are getting poisoned by Indian made cough syrups. According to the WHO.


So the Indian government absolves responsibility of one company, while punishing another. Its hard to trust that they are gonna be honest.

To be fair, China did have the same controversy of poisoned cough syrup many years back. But China have largely cleaned up their pharma industry since then. I don't trust India to be able to clean up their pharma industry as well as China did. It is carrying out denials and selective punishments. Not a good sign of progress. I think it is better to try to stay away from any generic drugs from Indian companies. Indian-made drugs from Western pharma companies may be safer, but we can't be that sure too.
The cough syrup problems happening around the world has been going on for quite some time now. The latest are eye drops cases.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 
Last edited:

BoraTas

Captain
Registered Member
The EU was the worst thing to happen to eastern Europe. The only advantage to being in the EU is if you leave your country and go live in Germany. If you are young and stay behind your labour is subsidising a massive population of economically inactive old people.

You have some countries now that are experiencing greater↕than 1% population decline PER YEAR. That's insane in the absence of war or famine.

Domestic industries either got shut down or taken over by German and European multinationals. Their populations were used to fix the demographic problems western European nations have had (at a cost to social cohesion).

Tech transfers? You really think Volkswagen are sharing corporate secrets with Slovakians? The eastern bloc countries have become more dependent than they ever have been. Corruption has worsened

The EU has been worse than centuries of Ottoman rule, decades of Warsaw pact. Future archeologists will look at the EU period and wonder if there was a mass famine or disease that wiped everyone out.
I don't agree. People living in Eastern Europe live much better than they would otherwise. Which is good for them. And Eastern Europe is still younger than Western Europe on average.
 

Dark Father

Junior Member
Registered Member

IPEF nations to pursue first economic agreements in U.S. meeting​

Indo-Pacific bloc seeks concrete measures to cut China reliance in chips, metals.

Source:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


Non paywall source:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


The economic and supply chain leg of the US led containment. Everything they pursue today is targeted at the PRC with Japan and Australia as deputy chiefs of US interests in the Asia Pacific.
 

BoraTas

Captain
Registered Member
This is definitely going to be an unpopular opinion, but I disagree with the majority. Digging up Queen Victoria's (the queen of the British Empire during the first and second Opium Wars along with the Boxer Rebellion) coffin and pissing on her skeleton is one thing, but digging up the ruins and corpses of soldiers who just follow orders is another. The latter is as dehumanizing as Western commentators calling Russian soldiers "sunflower fertilizer" and jeering at their grieving families. Soldiers are soldiers. They execute orders and go home. They are not the decision makers, and the dead can't fight back. As for the burning down of the palaces, every civilization pulled this stunt. We can go down a rabbit hole on the horrible acts of every single country if you want, and that includes the previous dynasties of China.
The robbing of war graves is a bad behavior indeed. But the thing is what's going on has nothing to do with China except that the ship is owned by a Chinese company. It is an act by a Malaysian company. And I researched a bit and saw that the demand for pre-atomic era steel is mostly from the West. Considering these, along with the UK's current behavior, the UK's possession of foreign historical artifacts and how this is being reported it is very hard to feel any sympathy.
 

Abominable

Major
Registered Member
I don't agree. People living in Eastern Europe live much better than they would otherwise. Which is good for them.
It's better in that they are free to leave, that's about it. The EU gives more in handouts to Eastern Europe than the USSR did. It's tens of billions a year, whereas the USSR was too poor so instead gave technical aid, housing.

Now that the Germans are going bankrupt and the Ukrainians are sucking up what's left of the handouts I imagine things will revert back to how they've always been.
And Eastern Europe is still younger than Western Europe on average.
Because Eastern Europe has a average lower life expectancy than Western Europe. They have a lower birth rate but have a much higher mortality rate.
 

Chish

Junior Member
Registered Member

U.S. turns to private Japan shipyards for faster warship repairs​

The U.S. Navy is studying the use of Japan's private shipyards to maintain, repair and overhaul its warships in a bid to reduce servicing backlogs back home -- an idea that could expand to South Korea, Singapore and the Philippines.

If realized, the move would signal a new level of integration with allies and partners as the U.S. maneuvers in the face of a now-larger Chinese naval fleet.

U.S. Ambassador to Japan Rahm Emanuel is leading the efforts, speaking with members of Congress and mobilizing embassy staff to reach out to the Japanese government, Nikkei Asia has learned.

Non paywall source:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
This just confirmed the seriousness of the problems the US navy is facing today.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 

Rast

New Member
Registered Member
$0.34 per minute ($20.40 per hour) + $1.45 per mile? Devils advocate but no way are they going to stay in the state being forced to pay double the minimum wage in Minnesota.

Minnesota Governor should have let it pass. Either way it turned out the electorate in the state and county would have learned a lesson in economics concerning mandated pay rates/regulations and the effects on business viability.

For example St. Paul, an American city, passed draconian measures concerning how much owners could charge tenants, the next year the city saw a catastrophic 80% drop in development of new housing units. Its sister city on the other side of the riverbank maintained its construction boom during the down fall in St. Paul.
 

supercat

Major

China’s souped-up data privacy laws deter researchers​


Recent regulations have strengthened Chinese data privacy, but are impinging on international research collaboration.
Recently introduced restrictions on the flow of academic and health data from China are concerning researchers globally, who say the new rules, as well as the uncertainty surrounding them, are discouraging international collaborations with scientists in the country. Others, fearing that access to information could be stymied, are opting not to work on projects about China or its people.

The suite of regulations, which have been introduced gradually since 2021, includes cybersecurity assessments of personal information and genetic data sent overseas, and restrictions on the export of biotechnology know-how in CRISPR–Cas9 gene-editing technology, synthetic biology and crop breeding. China is also considering limits on the amount of human genetic data that can be sent to other countries.

“The signal has been very clear that China does not want its scientists to collaborate as freely as they used to with foreigners,” says Joy Zhang, a sociologist at the University of Kent, UK, who organizes forums with Chinese researchers to facilitate collaboration.

Privacy concerns​

In November 2021, China’s Personal Information Protection Law (PIPL) came into effect. The law is designed to prevent companies — and others who gather data on individual people — from misusing their customers’ personal information. It is akin to the European Union’s General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

Zhang says that privacy protections are a necessary development in China. Many Chinese hospitals lack the cybersecurity infrastructure to safeguard patient data against privacy violations, she says.

Another measure was added last September: companies and institutions that send personal data, such as customer details or information on clinical-trial participants, to people outside mainland China must undergo a data-export security assessment. The assessments, carried out by the Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC), are designed to protect personal data as well as sensitive information related to national security. Chinese companies and universities planning to export data must either apply for a certification or, starting in June, have a contract with the receiving organization that guarantees the data will be stored appropriately and processed only as specified in the contract.

Ziwen Tan, a lawyer at the China Securities Regulatory Commission in Beijing, who has studied the PIPL, says the security assessments provide practical guidance for managing exported medical and health data and promote international medical-research cooperation. “The Chinese government does not hold a blanket negative attitude towards providing data to foreign countries,” says Tan.

But Zhang says that the rules are problematic for international researchers whose work relies on access to data or collaborators in China.

Organizations were given six months to comply with the export requirements. The first two approvals for data export were announced in January. At the time, more than 270 applications were pending, according to
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
in the Global Times, the flagship newspaper of the Chinese Communist Party.

Knowledge platform restricted​

One resource affected by the new regulations is the China National Knowledge Infrastructure (CNKI), China’s largest academic database. CNKI documents include millions of Chinese-language journal articles, some dating back to 1915; master’s and PhD theses; conference proceedings; newspapers; government statistics and patents. On 1 April, the CNKI suspended foreign access to portions of its database, including annual statistics gathered by provincial governments, national census data, conference proceedings and theses. The CNKI said that the suspension was in accordance with the new rules on data export. There is no indication of when access might resume. The CNKI did not respond to Nature’s request for comment.

This isn’t the first time that access to the CNKI has been tightened. In 2020, online sleuths trying to find clues about the origin of the COVID-19 pandemic used the CNKI to identify a master’s thesis that described a pneumonia-like illness in six miners “caused by SARS-like [coronavirus] from the Chinese horseshoe
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
”. Shortly after the sleuths posted that thesis and a PhD thesis containing similar information online, CNKI access was altered to prevent similar searches.

And last June, the CAC launched a
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
of the CNKI because of the extensive data, some of which are considered sensitive, that it holds. They include personal information, as well as data related to national defence, telecommunications, natural resources, health care, scientific and technological achievements and key technology trends.

Sarah Rogers, a geographer at the University of Melbourne in Australia who studies development in rural China, says that the CNKI suspension has removed an important source of data on crop yields and average income at the provincial level. “Given the impossibility of field research in recent years, this just further reduces foreign scholars’ capacity to understand what’s going on,” she says.

The suspension of CNKI services “could restrict the ability of scholars outside of China to obtain information related to Chinese academia, culture, technology and other fields of study”, says Tan.

Zhang says that the resource is predominantly used by social scientists, so “it is definitely to China’s own detriment that social scientists outside of China can’t access all these data”.

Research data​

It is unclear what impact the data-export requirements will have on researchers who conduct clinical research in China. The GDPR includes exemptions that allow data to be shared among researchers. But PIPL has no such exemption. “The Chinese data-export system is still developing,” says Henry Gao, a legal scholar at the Singapore Management University. “The Chinese authorities themselves are still working out the details.”

One concern for researchers in the life sciences, says Zhang, are draft restrictions on export of human genetic data, released
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
by the Ministry of Science and Technology. If implemented in full, the restrictions would require security clearance for the export of such data.

The Chinese government has not responded to Nature’s enquiries.

Technologies considered to be of national importance are also in the sights of the Chinese government. Last December, the Ministry of Commerce published proposed changes to its list of technologies whose export is prohibited or restricted. Seven were added to the revised list, including technologies related to cell cloning and gene editing in humans, CRISPR gene editing, synthetic biology and crop breeding, as well as bulk material handling, photovoltaic silicon wafer preparation and remote-sensing lidar systems.

Discouraging moves​

The tightened regulations reflect “the wider digital decoupling underway between China and Western countries”, says Ben Hillman, a political scientist at the Australian National University in Canberra. “The restrictions are part of a broader censorship programme designed to make it difficult for foreigners to conduct critical analysis of public policy and politics in China,” he says.

Gao says that, if it is too difficult for foreign researchers to navigate Chinese rules and regulations, they will be discouraged from collaborating with Chinese researchers.

In one such example, a student of Zhang’s who was studying fertility and gender in China decided to switch to a project focusing on the same topic in the United Kingdom. “We started to worry about her access to data,” says Zhang.

Stuart Gietel-Basten, a demographer at Khalifa University in Abu Dhabi, says that accessing data from China has been increasingly difficult. For example, some fertility-related data are no longer publicly available, he says. “They are not published, or at least made accessible any more, so that makes it harder to cross-check things.”

A further, more insidious effect of the laws, says Zhang, is that the added regulations create a mentality for Chinese researchers to “think twice” before facilitating foreign colleagues’ access to data. The changing mood is already preventing Chinese scholars from openly discussing their work in public forums outside China, she says. “It is 10 times harder than it was 20 years ago,” to get Chinese speakers at research forums, says Zhang, “because everyone needs to double check with themselves and with institutions whether or not they can talk.”

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Good. I like this development. We should minimize contact with the white westoid to an absolute minimum.
LMAO - if the West opposes it, then China did something right.

Good:
 
Top