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pmc

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Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe benefited way more from the EU than any country in Westen Europe. They got unrestricted access to markets incomparably larger than themselves. Unrestricted tech transfers, guidance about institutional reforms, grants, etc... Polish GDP was 250 billion USD in 2004. EU's GDP was 11.4 trillion USD. China's current GDP is 19.5 trillion USD. What would happen if a country with a GDP of 860 trillion USD gave unrestricted access to its market to China? Just imagine that.
its very difficult to quantify whether Eastern EU truly benefited as things may not be sustainable due to demographic changes and other debts like mortgages and they did not develop some thing truly important and unique that can influence US. Western EU prevents those opportunities. You may want to look at Japan Iraq mission during Bush Jr Iraq war that was swift and safe compared to many with Japan even enhancing further its relations with Mideast. It is not just technology but the right technology. Eastern EU simply not leave that impression they are reduced to always asking.
 

Helius

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Japanese passengers on Cathay Pacific should use items 1-3 of the Asian American Survival Starter Pack.
I think you would be safe if you were flying as a Japanese -

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But flight attendant Carmen* said the sacked crew had attitude problems and should not have treated passengers the way they did.

“Some crew members do have discriminatory issues,” she said. “If the guests are Japanese who cannot speak good English, I bet they would not pick on their English and behave differently. As flight attendants, we should treat guests with hospitality and professionalism.”

She said mainland passengers were easy-going and less demanding than Western ones.

Best to speak English with a Japanese accent when you're on a Cathay flight.
 

tokenanalyst

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China’s souped-up data privacy laws deter researchers​


Recent regulations have strengthened Chinese data privacy, but are impinging on international research collaboration.
Recently introduced restrictions on the flow of academic and health data from China are concerning researchers globally, who say the new rules, as well as the uncertainty surrounding them, are discouraging international collaborations with scientists in the country. Others, fearing that access to information could be stymied, are opting not to work on projects about China or its people.

The suite of regulations, which have been introduced gradually since 2021, includes cybersecurity assessments of personal information and genetic data sent overseas, and restrictions on the export of biotechnology know-how in CRISPR–Cas9 gene-editing technology, synthetic biology and crop breeding. China is also considering limits on the amount of human genetic data that can be sent to other countries.

“The signal has been very clear that China does not want its scientists to collaborate as freely as they used to with foreigners,” says Joy Zhang, a sociologist at the University of Kent, UK, who organizes forums with Chinese researchers to facilitate collaboration.

Privacy concerns​

In November 2021, China’s Personal Information Protection Law (PIPL) came into effect. The law is designed to prevent companies — and others who gather data on individual people — from misusing their customers’ personal information. It is akin to the European Union’s General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

Zhang says that privacy protections are a necessary development in China. Many Chinese hospitals lack the cybersecurity infrastructure to safeguard patient data against privacy violations, she says.

Another measure was added last September: companies and institutions that send personal data, such as customer details or information on clinical-trial participants, to people outside mainland China must undergo a data-export security assessment. The assessments, carried out by the Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC), are designed to protect personal data as well as sensitive information related to national security. Chinese companies and universities planning to export data must either apply for a certification or, starting in June, have a contract with the receiving organization that guarantees the data will be stored appropriately and processed only as specified in the contract.

Ziwen Tan, a lawyer at the China Securities Regulatory Commission in Beijing, who has studied the PIPL, says the security assessments provide practical guidance for managing exported medical and health data and promote international medical-research cooperation. “The Chinese government does not hold a blanket negative attitude towards providing data to foreign countries,” says Tan.

But Zhang says that the rules are problematic for international researchers whose work relies on access to data or collaborators in China.

Organizations were given six months to comply with the export requirements. The first two approvals for data export were announced in January. At the time, more than 270 applications were pending, according to
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in the Global Times, the flagship newspaper of the Chinese Communist Party.

Knowledge platform restricted​

One resource affected by the new regulations is the China National Knowledge Infrastructure (CNKI), China’s largest academic database. CNKI documents include millions of Chinese-language journal articles, some dating back to 1915; master’s and PhD theses; conference proceedings; newspapers; government statistics and patents. On 1 April, the CNKI suspended foreign access to portions of its database, including annual statistics gathered by provincial governments, national census data, conference proceedings and theses. The CNKI said that the suspension was in accordance with the new rules on data export. There is no indication of when access might resume. The CNKI did not respond to Nature’s request for comment.

This isn’t the first time that access to the CNKI has been tightened. In 2020, online sleuths trying to find clues about the origin of the COVID-19 pandemic used the CNKI to identify a master’s thesis that described a pneumonia-like illness in six miners “caused by SARS-like [coronavirus] from the Chinese horseshoe
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”. Shortly after the sleuths posted that thesis and a PhD thesis containing similar information online, CNKI access was altered to prevent similar searches.

And last June, the CAC launched a
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of the CNKI because of the extensive data, some of which are considered sensitive, that it holds. They include personal information, as well as data related to national defence, telecommunications, natural resources, health care, scientific and technological achievements and key technology trends.

Sarah Rogers, a geographer at the University of Melbourne in Australia who studies development in rural China, says that the CNKI suspension has removed an important source of data on crop yields and average income at the provincial level. “Given the impossibility of field research in recent years, this just further reduces foreign scholars’ capacity to understand what’s going on,” she says.

The suspension of CNKI services “could restrict the ability of scholars outside of China to obtain information related to Chinese academia, culture, technology and other fields of study”, says Tan.

Zhang says that the resource is predominantly used by social scientists, so “it is definitely to China’s own detriment that social scientists outside of China can’t access all these data”.

Research data​

It is unclear what impact the data-export requirements will have on researchers who conduct clinical research in China. The GDPR includes exemptions that allow data to be shared among researchers. But PIPL has no such exemption. “The Chinese data-export system is still developing,” says Henry Gao, a legal scholar at the Singapore Management University. “The Chinese authorities themselves are still working out the details.”

One concern for researchers in the life sciences, says Zhang, are draft restrictions on export of human genetic data, released
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by the Ministry of Science and Technology. If implemented in full, the restrictions would require security clearance for the export of such data.

The Chinese government has not responded to Nature’s enquiries.

Technologies considered to be of national importance are also in the sights of the Chinese government. Last December, the Ministry of Commerce published proposed changes to its list of technologies whose export is prohibited or restricted. Seven were added to the revised list, including technologies related to cell cloning and gene editing in humans, CRISPR gene editing, synthetic biology and crop breeding, as well as bulk material handling, photovoltaic silicon wafer preparation and remote-sensing lidar systems.

Discouraging moves​

The tightened regulations reflect “the wider digital decoupling underway between China and Western countries”, says Ben Hillman, a political scientist at the Australian National University in Canberra. “The restrictions are part of a broader censorship programme designed to make it difficult for foreigners to conduct critical analysis of public policy and politics in China,” he says.

Gao says that, if it is too difficult for foreign researchers to navigate Chinese rules and regulations, they will be discouraged from collaborating with Chinese researchers.

In one such example, a student of Zhang’s who was studying fertility and gender in China decided to switch to a project focusing on the same topic in the United Kingdom. “We started to worry about her access to data,” says Zhang.

Stuart Gietel-Basten, a demographer at Khalifa University in Abu Dhabi, says that accessing data from China has been increasingly difficult. For example, some fertility-related data are no longer publicly available, he says. “They are not published, or at least made accessible any more, so that makes it harder to cross-check things.”

A further, more insidious effect of the laws, says Zhang, is that the added regulations create a mentality for Chinese researchers to “think twice” before facilitating foreign colleagues’ access to data. The changing mood is already preventing Chinese scholars from openly discussing their work in public forums outside China, she says. “It is 10 times harder than it was 20 years ago,” to get Chinese speakers at research forums, says Zhang, “because everyone needs to double check with themselves and with institutions whether or not they can talk.”

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Good. I like this development. We should minimize contact with the white westoid to an absolute minimum.
They should put the blame on the US anti-China Hawkish moronic politicians, the mainstream media idiotic hysterical coverage of China and heavily overpaid think tankers.
 

siegecrossbow

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Tiktok or Douyin instigates illegal immigrants to cross Mexico border. In addition, there are also videos that instruct people to work in Chinese restaurants by offering a very low wage to get the job in order to sue the owners for violating labor laws. The thinking is if you are a victim of labor abuses, you might be able to get a legal status.

However, such labor violation victims are unlikely to obtain a legal status through such lawsuit. More likely, many Chinese restaurant owners would be reluctant to hire any new immigrants going forward.

I have to say these Chinese liberals that instigate the new wave of illegal immigrants are despicable. Whatever their intention is, they are very sick. On the other hand, these idiots leaving China might be good for China.
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Seven months later...

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TLDW: it's a ploy by the SeeSeePee to brainwash Chinese liberals into little pinks.
 

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Do Chinese researchers have an easy or equal access to many or any of these same western countries that these "researchers" have had access to?
It is a projection, really since Trump and the “China Initiative” by the FBI, the research cooperation between China and the US have deteriorated immensely. Of course this was further exacerbated by the “Kung Flu” blame game. This is just the next step, sad really.
 

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Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe benefited way more from the EU than any country in Westen Europe. They got unrestricted access to markets incomparably larger than themselves. Unrestricted tech transfers, guidance about institutional reforms, grants, etc... Polish GDP was 250 billion USD in 2004. EU's GDP was 11.4 trillion USD. China's current GDP is 19.5 trillion USD. What would happen if a country with a GDP of 860 trillion USD gave unrestricted access to its market to China? Just imagine that.
The EU was the worst thing to happen to eastern Europe. The only advantage to being in the EU is if you leave your country and go live in Germany. If you are young and stay behind your labour is subsidising a massive population of economically inactive old people.

You have some countries now that are experiencing greater↕than 1% population decline PER YEAR. That's insane in the absence of war or famine.

Domestic industries either got shut down or taken over by German and European multinationals. Their populations were used to fix the demographic problems western European nations have had (at a cost to social cohesion).

Tech transfers? You really think Volkswagen are sharing corporate secrets with Slovakians? The eastern bloc countries have become more dependent than they ever have been. Corruption has worsened

The EU has been worse than centuries of Ottoman rule, decades of Warsaw pact. Future archeologists will look at the EU period and wonder if there was a mass famine or disease that wiped everyone out.
 

Heliox

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You know, now that I think of it, this sounds like total bullshit.

Although I did not read the article, but the basic fact is that those boats been submerged in seawater for a few decades.

Won't it rust?

Who in their right minds would want to take the expense to salvage a rusting hulk for scrape?

I've dived that wreck multiple times and I can assure you they ( PoW and Repulse) are not rusted out. In fact, most of the steel on the wreck, especially the heavy steel sections, are still in good condition.
 

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The EU was the worst thing to happen to eastern Europe. The only advantage to being in the EU is if you leave your country and go live in Germany. If you are young and stay behind your labour is subsidising a massive population of economically inactive old people.

You have some countries now that are experiencing greater↕than 1% population decline PER YEAR. That's insane in the absence of war or famine.

Domestic industries either got shut down or taken over by German and European multinationals. Their populations were used to fix the demographic problems western European nations have had (at a cost to social cohesion).

Tech transfers? You really think Volkswagen are sharing corporate secrets with Slovakians? The eastern bloc countries have become more dependent than they ever have been. Corruption has worsened

The EU has been worse than centuries of Ottoman rule, decades of Warsaw pact. Future archeologists will look at the EU period and wonder if there was a mass famine or disease that wiped everyone out.
"it is clear from demographic records that the Nazis won in the post 1991 period in Eastern Europe. Based on historical records, the fascists eliminated millions in the period 1939-1945. Then, based on patterns of bombing, ruins and demographic recovery, we see the first defeat of the Nazis in 1945. What followed seems to be a 50 year recovery based on the demographic and archaeology data, and then there is is a massive decline in the populations of eastern Europe analogous to the Nazi period. There is no evidence of bombing though, so we must conclude that the Nazis were able to conduct a swift takeover too quick for the inhabitants to resist, and then they severely attritioned the local population through sterilization and deportation. A stern warning to future generations about the need for vigilance against the resurgence of fascism."
 

siegecrossbow

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It is a projection, really since Trump and the “China Initiative” by the FBI, the research cooperation between China and the US have deteriorated immensely. Of course this was further exacerbated by the “Kung Flu” blame game. This is just the next step, sad really.

Not really China’s fault when this is the extent of his advisors’ China knowledge.

 
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