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horse

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To continue this semi-related rant, although I did not read the article, it is too obvious why Russia under Putin is getting closer to China under Xi.

It is not really about Putin and Xi being friends, which they are.

That only helps. Makes it less formal, easier to get things done.

And, also, we cannot stay mad at our friends. That is why they are friends.


Russia under Putin, has fought about six wars.

And the direction of those wars, geographically speaking, always coming from the same general direction.

But when Putin looks east, nothing but stability and friendship.

After this Ukraine debacle with the Madian stuff, it has come to a point where Russia has said screw this.

All this time with Putin as leader, there was always some difficulty or war, on this side, while that other side of the country, nothing but development and trade links facilitating expansion of commerce. War on one side, growth on the other.

No one bothers to mention this in the Western media.

In fact, the Western media actually brings out Doctor Kissinger for a cameo appearance of disinformation a few pages back.

Kind of pathetic attempt.

STFU!

I like Kissinger. The media should STFU! Tell us how many wars Putin was fighting!

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horse

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I remember two Chechen wars.

There was some war in South Odessa, where they drove the tank column through a tunnel in the mountain. No one bothered to blow it up, so the Russian tanks drove all the downtown.

There was the war where Putin was going to hang Saakashvili by the balls.
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Then there were the little green men who just appeared in Ukraine, then Crimea was Russian again.

Now this is round two of that, or continuation of that, non-stop.

What the Russia sell when looking east, they have to spend that money and blood when dealing with problems looking west.

That's BS man!

What BS!

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I remember two Chechen wars.

There was some war in South Odessa, where they drove the tank column through a tunnel in the mountain. No one bothered to blow it up, so the Russian tanks drove all the downtown.

There was the war where Putin was going to hang Saakashvili by the balls.
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Then there were the little green men who just appeared in Ukraine, then Crimea was Russian again.

Now this is round two of that, or continuation of that, non-stop.

What the Russia sell when looking east, they have to spend that money and blood when dealing with problems looking west.

That's BS man!

What BS!

:mad:
Nobody forced them to invade as they did. They could have just held on to Crimea as-is and sent in troops to the breakaway republics to ensure Ukraine could never win the artillery war. Instead Putin did this.
 

GodRektsNoobs

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what’s the world coming to when the nazis need to enlist Africans and swarthy arabs to help them fight the Russians? Not very master race at all.
Actually that's very European of them, since that's exactly what they did in both World Wars. The whites are too noble to die! Oh the horror! Let's command the lesser races to die for us as cannon fodder!
 

horse

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Nobody forced them to invade as they did. They could have just held on to Crimea as-is and sent in troops to the breakaway republics to ensure Ukraine could never win the artillery war. Instead Putin did this.

There was the Minsk Accords.

When people do not honour a deal or negotiate in bad faith, the inevitable happens.

All the finger pointing will not help the West solve this problem.
 

FriedButter

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"it is not enough to win, all others must perish as well" -quote mistakenly attributed to Ghengis Khan.

Look at a these pathetic western supremacists, who fancy themselves great conquerors but who can't conquer their way out of 'harmful language' and being misgendered or 'deadnamed'.

The article contains some serious copium where the author is strapped to a 1000cc bag of IV copium

To defeat Russia, the West must convince Putin and the Russian people they have lost the war in their minds.
Russian defeat does not require a march on Moscow (rarely a good idea in the past), and it does not require a Russia that is defenseless and devastated (impossible without World War III). Rather, it will be achieved inside the heads of Russia’s leaders and population. Russia must be convinced that the military instrument, and its deployment in large-scale war, will inevitably fail, and it must realize that Ukraine is permanently and completely lost.

Convince the Russian people that the economy is an illusion generated from a Chinese super computer.
The West needs an aggressive information campaign to drive home the reality of Russian defeat. Russians need to be reminded that their faltering economy is only a tenth the size of the EU’s; that they cannot build and deploy a modern tank; that their latest high-performance jet, the Su-57

And to top it off. They still dream that Russia will come back to them.
The time may come—years or, more likely, decades from now—when a postimperial Russia will turn westward again.
 
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The article contains some serious copium where the author is strapped to a 1000cc bag of IV copium

To defeat Russia, the West must convince Putin and the Russian people they have lost the war in their minds.


Convince the Russian people that the economy is an illusion generated from a Chinese super computer.


And to top it off. They still dream that Russia will come back to them.
I think a lot of commentators are basically just using Russia as a rhetorical punching bag to vent the rage they feel at not being able to push around China as they please. It's really offensive to them that a nonwhite communist country is strong and technologically competent enough to deter them through purely conventional means. They've never experienced anything like it, and it's only going to get worse for them. So they cope by insulting and degrading a country with vastly lower capabilities. Classic bully behavior.

What's ironic is how they don't seem to understand the fact that, if Putin really gets into hot water politically and a revolt is brewing, China will just send in the PAP to bail him out like he did with Kazakhstan in 1/22. So if their ostensible destabilization efforts actually work, it will only result in Russia becoming even more subordinate to China.
 
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