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vincent

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This is happening in China too btw, so I wouldn't break out the schadenfreude that quickly. Chinese birth rates in large cities are comparable to South Korea and Chinese feminists want exactly the same thing as Korean ones - no marriage, no children (unless through IVF with a white man's sperm).
That's fine. The men can simply marry women from other countries

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manqiangrexue

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That's fine. The men can simply marry women from other countries

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No. Inter-gender strife is the most horrific problem a country can have; it's worse than Democrats vs Republicans. Society can only function when men and women work together; every living person is testament to the bond between man and woman. When rival political factions fight, it is stupid and silly, like a man's right arm wrestling with his left. When the men and women in a country have a gender war, it is like an auto-immune disease that can kill the person at the cellular level.

The fabric of society is built upon self-love and unity, Chinese men and Chinese women loving, honoring, being true to each other and working together for a Chinese future. That wholeomeness is the basic building block for advancement. If there is strife between the genders in China, we MUST sit down and resolve them to preserve the natural, biologically-dictated complimentary relationship between man and woman. The government must find any root causes of contempt and resolve them, and if that means that men must be less traditional and more forward with the times, commit more and do more to hold up the family, then so be it. You married a woman because you love her and you are willing to protect her even if it brings harm to you so see it through even if your heart doesn't thump like a racecar engine anymore like it did the first time you saw her. Men and women are equal but not the same so don't treat her like a roommate or friend. Treat her like someone you're dedicated to cherishing for life because that is what marriage is. To those not married yet, puff out your chest, be a man and handle the extra burden; don't push things onto her. Show her how great of a man you are!

Do not run away from problems and discomfort by seeking out alternatives (foreigners). Doing so by spurning women of your own race is like throwing your child on the street to adopt another one. There is no alternative. Your mother, grandmother, sister and eventually daughter are all Chinese women. They are yours and you are theirs, so be fully committed. If Chinese men and women spurn each other and strive to marry foreigners, even the Chinese bloodline is in danger. That is one problem the US can laugh all the way to the bank with.
 
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manqiangrexue

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Meh? That's what you have to say to the traditional love and cooperation between men and women, the relationship that gave birth to you? Keep that for your own country, not for China.
China has already demonstrated its Artificial womb and Gene editing capabilities.
First of all, it's so far from mature, you could lose a generation waiting for it. Secondly, we are a human society, not some freakshow Matrix/Borg colony where people errupt from machines and are created/killed for a purpose. These technologies are made to help parents with biological problems have children; they are not being created to break the bond between men and women.
 

azn_cyniq

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No. Inter-gender strife is the most horrific problem a country can have; it's worse than Democrats vs Republicans. Society can only function when men and women work together; every living person is testament to the bond between man and woman. When rival political factions fight, it is stupid and silly, like a man's right arm wrestling with his left. When the men and women in a country have a gender war, it is like an auto-immune disease that can kill the person at the cellular level.

The fabric of society is built upon self-love and unity, Chinese men and Chinese women loving, honoring, being true to each other and working together for a Chinese future. That wholeomeness is the basic building block for advancement. If there is strife between the genders in China, we MUST sit down and resolve them to preserve the natural, biologically-dictated complimentary relationship between man and woman. The government must find any root causes of contempt and resolve them, and if that means that men must be less traditional and more forward with the times, commit more and do more to hold up the family, then so be it. You married a woman because you love her and you are willing to protect her even if it brings harm to you so see it through even if your heart doesn't thump like a racecar engine anymore like it did the first time you saw her. Men and women are equal but not the same so don't treat her like a roommate or friend. Treat her like someone you're dedicated to cherishing for life because that is what marriage is. To those not married yet, puff out your chest, be a man and handle the extra burden; don't push things onto her. Show her how great of a man you are!

Do not run away from problems and discomfort by seeking out alternatives (foreigners). Doing so by spurning women of your own race is like throwing your child on the street to adopt another one. There is no alternative. Your mother, grandmother, sister and eventually daughter are all Chinese women. They are yours and you are theirs, so be fully committed. If Chinese men and women spurn each other and strive to marry foreigners, even the Chinese bloodline is in danger. That is one problem the US can laugh all the way to the bank with.
There are more men than women in China, so I don't think it's a problem that many Chinese men are marrying foreigners.
 

Strangelove

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Papua New Guinea is a failed state. It is the easiest type of target for neo-colonialists. While this security pact is targeted mainly at China. Indonesia is also not going to be too comfortable about it. Because it is Indonesia, not China, who is PNG's main security concern.

The tribes there may have developed a taste for "white" meat...and they're maybe lucky if some US soldier wonders off the base to see the countryside.


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LKK815

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This is happening in China too btw, so I wouldn't break out the schadenfreude that quickly. Chinese birth rates in large cities are comparable to South Korea and Chinese feminists want exactly the same thing as Korean ones - no marriage, no children (unless through IVF with a white man's sperm).
I'm not sure about the veracity of this. But I have heard from a friend living in china that the ultra feminism in some tier 1 cities is quite bad. They are just as radical as the south Korean ones.

She claims that Most of these ultra feminism is being spread by American or western aligned NGOs in University campuses. If this is true I hope the party cracks down heavily and brutally on such groups to prevent a similar situation to the one happening in south Korea. At the same time if there's tension between the two genders the party must take the initiative to resolve the crisis swiftly.

I feel that this is an attempt by the west and america to slowly destroy cohesion of Chinese society, like a sort of spiritual warfare.
 

BlackWindMnt

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Meh? That's what you have to say to the traditional love and cooperation between men and women, the relationship that gave birth to you? Keep that for your own country, not for China.

First of all, it's so far from mature, you could lose a generation waiting for it. Secondly, we are a human society, not some freakshow Matrix/Borg colony where people errupt from machines and are created/killed for a purpose. These technologies are made to help parents with biological problems have children; they are not being created to break the bond between men and women.
The freakshow matrix/borg colony means the end of society in general. It's means human bonding/relationships have completely broken down. Without human bonds and relationships why even have a society worth defending and developing something to pass along to future generations.
 

manqiangrexue

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There are more men than women in China, so I don't think it's a problem that many Chinese men are marrying foreigners.
That's totally not the same as what I was saying. I'm saying that it's wrong to spurn the men/women of your country specifically for foreign men/women because you percieve there to be some problem with the men/women of your country. If you are lonesome Joe (Zhou), can't get a date despite trying, don't have anything going for you that the Chinese consider making you dateable, go ahead save up and start checking out some SEA bride catalogues. You'll know it's what you need to do when you're at that place in life.
I'm not sure about the veracity of this. But I have heard from a friend living in china that the ultra feminism in some tier 1 cities is quite bad. They are just as radical as the south Korean ones.

She claims that Most of these ultra feminism is being spread by American or western aligned NGOs in University campuses. If this is true I hope the party cracks down heavily and brutally on such groups to prevent a similar situation to the one happening in south Korea. At the same time if there's tension between the two genders the party must take the initiative to resolve the crisis swiftly.

I feel that this is an attempt by the west and america to slowly destroy cohesion of Chinese society, like a sort of spiritual warfare.
In my experience, the cure to ultra feminism is ultra masculinity, in the most charming and least oppressive way. Feminists become hateful when men don't treat them like gentlemen but like competition to be pushed around using patriarichal weapons. Those ultra feminists who meet the right man usually convert right back out of it like it was a phase. Sit there arms stretched over the back of your chair, chest out (bonus points if your pecs can dance), gym shoulders look like you're wearing a football guard under your shirt. Make some jokes, make her giggle, then wrap one arm around her, bicep guiding the nape of her neck with the other arm out hailing a cab, and whisper to her, "You're gonna break all 4 vows with me." Next day all her fem friends are like, "She never misses these meetings where we talk about how small guys dicks are and throw darts at male model posters. Where is she???" But she'll show up. One hour late, one last time, hair a mess, shirt stained and untucked, to tell them she'll be too busy to come in the future. Bonus Lion's Den Ultra Alpha Alternate Ending: She shows up with you, and 6 of your doctor/engineer/banker, etc... gym buddies like you in tow. Weekly Ultra-Fem meeting group still takes place, same place, same time, but the sign up front now says, "Expectant Mothers Show and Tell Group."

In all seriousness, Chinese society has a lot of work pressure and it's making a lot of guys beta. Beta males start getting bitchy with the ladies at work instead of wooing them after. That's a societal problem that needs to be addressed but the key is to not lose productivity and lag in national develpment as a consequence.
 
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azn_cyniq

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That's totally not the same as what I was saying. I'm saying that it's wrong to spurn the men/women of your country specifically for foreign men/women because you percieve there to be some problem with the men/women of your country. If you are lonesome Joe (Zhou), can't get a date despite trying, don't have anything going for you that the Chinese consider making you dateable, go ahead save up and start checking out some SEA bride catalogues. You'll know it's what you need to do when you're at that place in life.

In my experience, the cure to ultra feminism is ultra masculinity, in the most charming and least oppressive way. Feminists become hateful when men don't treat them like gentlemen but like competition to be pushed around using patriarichal weapons. Those ultra feminists who meet the right man usually convert right back out of it like it was a phase. Sit there confidently, chest out (bonus points if your pecs can dance), gym shoulders taking up half the space in the seats next to you, make some jokes, make her giggle, then wrap one arm around her with the other arm out hailing a cab, and whisper to her, "You're gonna break all 4 vows with me." Next day all her fem friends are like, "She never misses these meetings where we talk about how small guys dicks are and throw darts at a male model posters. Where is she???" But she'll show up. One last time. With you, and 6 of your gym buddies like you. Weekly Ultra-Fem meeting group still takes place, same place, same time, but the sign up front now says, "New Mothers Show and Tell Group."

In all seriousness, Chinese society has a lot of work pressure and it's making a lot of guys beta. Beta males start getting bitchy with the ladies at work instead of wooing them after. That's a societal problem that needs to be addressed but the key is to not lose productivity and lag in national develpment as a consequence.
Are Chinese men are spurning Chinese women? The opposite may be true, but the fact that there are more men than women in China means that some Chinese men must look abroad.

I also don't quite agree with your emphasis on Chinese bloodlines. For most of Chinese history, Chinese people have married foreigners. On the western frontier, many Chinese people married Central Asians. On the northern frontier, many Chinese people married Russians. On the southern frontier, many Chinese people married Southeast Asians. Unlike other East Asian nations, China isn't really an ethnostate, but in spite of that, Chinese culture remains true to its roots. I think that's something that all Chinese people should be proud of.
 
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