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Sardaukar20

Sardaukar20

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FairAndUnbiased said:
Let's compare India to 2000 China.

In 2000, China had:

1. SMIC which was a 180 nm fab - leading edge at the time.
2. Tencent already came out with QQ, the first domestic social media
5. Alibaba
4. BYD
5. Baidu
6. Huawei
7. ZTE
8. J-10

So does India today have a leading edge semiconductor fab, domestic social media, domestic ecommerce, domestic cars, domestic search engine, domestic telecom and domestic 4th gen medium fighter?
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No. India today neither has, nor need all of those things. India has Modi, Ambani, Adani, Sunak, Kamala Harris, CEOs, and lots of Jai Hind. India is a Superpowa today.
 
birdlikefood

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Saying the Indian economy is roughly similar in size to the Chinese economy in 2007 is massively misleading since it implies Indian growth will mirror Chinese growth of the 00s. In 2007 China experienced a staggering 14.2% GDP growth. India this year won't even do half of that. China throughout the 00s had multiple years of consistent >10% growth. That's how it's a 18 trillion dollar economy today. Chinese leaders made a series of intelligent, logical decisions in the reform and opening up period that set the economy up for sustained high quality growth in the years ahead. While Chinese leaders were busy opening SEZs, reforming its pricing system, attracting FDI, Indian leaders were worshipping cows. China is interested in doing. India is interested in saying. With India's current institutions, ethnic issues and culture, India is more like 30 years behind China economically.
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Although India is absurd, funny and not enterprising in many ways, it has to be admitted that it is one of the few countries that China needs to take seriously.

1. No matter how rubbish India's reputation in the international community is and how ridiculous things it does, it is also one of the few sovereign countries.

2. Although it is often ridiculed that "India is a country with 100 million people and 1.3 billion livestock", but from the perspective of 50 or 100 years, it is still the country with the hightest market purchasing power potential among the top three in the world.

3. Although his development speed is not worth mentioning compared to the same period in China, his increment is indeed growing. He made many stupid reforms, but many reforms have played a positive role in social development in the long run. (This is like a person who keeps eating nutritious but unhygienic food, he will have diarrhea every day, but in the long run he will gradually gain weight)

4. Although its industrial capacity and industrial chain are in a mess, it should not be ignored. It can manufacture nuclear weapons, fighter jets and launch vehicles. It is also one of the few developing countries with a complete industry, and a country with a large number of engineers. The most important thing is that his industry is not easy to be destroyed. The reason is that India has a backward but huge small-scale peasant economy, which provides a lot of soft landing space for the economic crisis.

5. It is at a good time, Sino-US competition and US-Russia confrontation provide it with a development window, human fear of nuclear weapons, and the umbrella of basic universal values of human beings prevent it from mass murder and the possibility of being directly colonized .

Therefore, it can be ridiculed tactically as a personal pastime, but strategically, India should be regarded as a respectable opponent in order to seek long-term suppression methods and the possibility of long-term cooperation. There is almost no historical animosity between China and India. China’s advantages in the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau will continue to be expanded with the advancement of science and technology. The long-term reconciliation between India and Pakistan needs China’s help. Both China and India have a pantheistic religious environment. The future is still long, and everything is possible.
 
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Chinese defence minister to meet with Indian counterparts during SCO meeting? I expect nothing to change.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1651584715961561089
Like that would intimidate the Defence Minister of China. If India still wants another war with China, China will not start it, but China will finish it.
 
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birdlikefood said:
Although India is absurd, funny and not enterprising in many ways, it has to be admitted that it is one of the few countries that China needs to take seriously.

1. No matter how rubbish India's reputation in the international community is and how ridiculous things it does, it is also one of the few sovereign countries.

2. Although it is often ridiculed that "India is a country with 100 million people and 1.3 billion livestock", but from the perspective of 50 or 100 years, it is still the country with the hightest market purchasing power potential among the top three in the world.

3. Although his development speed is not worth mentioning compared to the same period in China, his increment is indeed growing. He made many stupid reforms, but many reforms have played a positive role in social development in the long run. (This is like a person who keeps eating nutritious but unhygienic food, he will have diarrhea every day, but in the long run he will gradually gain weight)

4. Although its industrial capacity and industrial chain are in a mess, it should not be ignored. It can manufacture nuclear weapons, fighter jets and launch vehicles. It is also one of the few developing countries with a complete industry, and a country with a large number of engineers. The most important thing is that his industry is not easy to be destroyed. The reason is that India has a backward but huge small-scale peasant economy, which provides a lot of soft landing space for the economic crisis.

5. It is at a good time, Sino-US competition and US-Russia confrontation provide it with a development window, human fear of nuclear weapons, and the umbrella of basic universal values of human beings prevent it from mass murder and the possibility of being directly colonized .

Therefore, it can be ridiculed tactically as a personal pastime, but strategically, India should be regarded as a respectable opponent in order to seek long-term suppression methods and the possibility of long-term cooperation. There is almost no historical animosity between China and India. China’s advantages in the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau will continue to be expanded with the advancement of science and technology. The long-term reconciliation between India and Pakistan needs China’s help. Both China and India have a pantheistic religious environment. The future is still long, and everything is possible.
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I do agree with some of this. They're projected to peak at 1.6 billion people sometime around 2040. Already they have a PPP larger than Japan and #3 in the world. By virtue of population alone, India is going to be a force to be reckoned with. However India will never do to China what China is currently doing to other advanced economies: cannibalize their market shares in advanced industries (South Korea, Germany and Japan in particular are utterly f*cked). Not with its current leadership. And even if an Indian Communist Party with every bit of brutal pragmatism and efficiency as the CPC suddenly takes power, it would still take decades for India to build itself up and threaten China's industries and economic prosperity, assuming everything goes right. Should that happen, China must do everything in its power to hamper, contain and cut down India's growth.
 
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