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HeroOftheFerelden

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Warhead count does matter when your adversary has demonstrated a willingness to do preemptive strikes and has a history of doing so. Can you honestly say that China can maintain MAD after receiving a surprise strike and retaliate through US air defenses? There must be enough warheads to survive a strike and still obliterate the offending nations in retaliation after capabilities have been degraded. Unless you want to move to high readiness and launch on warning doctrine, 250-350 warheads will not

Allegedly during a meeting between high rank Chinese and Russian military delegates, the Chinese wanted to ask how many warheads would make the Russians uncomfortable, at the same time the Russian wanted to ask how many the Chinese intended to have, after a while both sides decided better not to talk about the issue.
If it goes by according the words "the amount of warheads should match the economic power", 1499 warheads will be my guess.
 
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Japan's role as host was also under question, with 22.8 percent saying they are not confident in the country's ability to lead the talks.

Strong criticism from survivors: Kishida's stance "makes it hard to believe he is elected from Hiroshima."

Just 2.1 percent of respondents said Japan has been able serve as a "bridge" between nuclear and non-nuclear states.

Japan's population projected to
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Foreign residents, including students and workers residing in Japan for more than three months, are set to comprise 10.8 percent of the population at 9.39 million in 2070, expanding from 2.2 percent in 2020.
The National Institute of Population and Security Research said those aged 65 or above in Japan are projected to hit 33.67 million in 2070 after peaking at 39.53 million in 2043. In 2070, they will comprise 38.7 percent of the population, resulting in ballooning social security costs.
 

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Iran has seriously got some big big b-lls...
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Question is if India will fulfil its obligations under SCO and defend the rest of the continent against Anglo America.
I think it’s more likely for India to pull a Roose Bolton and try to Red Wedding China and Russia.

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look at China’s space program and Huawei. Both sanctioned by the anglos. Small wonder ch8na doesn’t care about Anglo American sanctions, even welcomes them. American elites better start thinking about how to “create the right conditions” to even get china to talk to you.
 

Sardaukar20

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Saying the Indian economy is roughly similar in size to the Chinese economy in 2007 is massively misleading since it implies Indian growth will mirror Chinese growth of the 00s. In 2007 China experienced a staggering 14.2% GDP growth. India this year won't even do half of that. China throughout the 00s had multiple years of consistent >10% growth. That's how it's a 18 trillion dollar economy today. Chinese leaders made a series of intelligent, logical decisions in the reform and opening up period that set the economy up for sustained high quality growth in the years ahead. While Chinese leaders were busy opening SEZs, reforming its pricing system, attracting FDI, Indian leaders were worshipping cows. China is interested in doing. India is interested in saying. With India's current institutions, ethnic issues and culture, India is more like 30 years behind China economically.
Yes, it does sound misleading to compare the Indian economy today with that of China in 2007. It makes it sound like India is looking like China back in 2007. That is absolutely not the case. While India's GDP size today is comparable to that of China in 2007, it's economy is nothing like China's economy in 2007. China's economy then was just 3 years away from overtaking the Japanese economy. I just don't think that Indian could overtake the Japanese economy anytime soon. India is not deeply integrated into the world economy like China was in the 00s. The world economy can function just fine without India in the picture. There are many better outsourcing alternatives to China that are not India. Many Western brands are not rushing into the Indian market like they were with China back in 00's. While Apple are trying India out now. GM, Ford, Nissan, Carrefour, Holcim, and Lafarge have already left India. That 'massive Indian market' is apparently not profitable enough for MNCs to keep doing business there. Not a good indicator for India's globalization future.

China opened it's first HSR in 2007, while India is nowhere near completing its first HSR within this year. Indians themselves followed the Western narrative to blast the Chinese HSR as 'unprofitable'. So India doesn't look like it's in a hurry to massively upgrade it's infrastructure. China is constantly on an infrastructure building spree since the 90s, while India has been talking more, and delivering comparatively very little.

In terms of education. This is where the cheerleaders for India should actually worry. Instead of implementing serious education programs, India under the BJP is focused more into religious education. Sometimes even examining students on the topic of the Holy Cow. The quality of STEM research in India has been declining ever since Modi took power. They are now riding on the last legs of the Manmohan-era scientific research. India had gone from developing the failed Kaveri engine in the 90s-00s, to developing electric-tipped Thrishul (Lord Shiva's trident) today. If that is what the JHs call progress, then good for them.

China in the 00s was working in multilateral trade frameworks like the WTO. China's doors are open to businesses from adversaries like Japan and the US, as long as they follow China's rules of no politics, which is actually quite lenient. India's economy today is more protectionist than it was in the 00s. More arbitrary punishments, more red tape, and more barriers. Its transforming more into a gangster-like business environment. India turned away the BRI, declining massive development and FDI opportunities. India turned away RCEP, isolating its economy from the rest of Asia. The US has recently emerged as India's largest trading partner, no longer China. India has chosen to tie its economy closer to the US. But then India also wants to attempt dedolarization to promote its Rupee. So good luck to both of them.

So while India's GDP is comparable to China's in 2007. India's future economic prospects are not ;looking positive indeed. Unlike China in 2007, India is not on the path to super economic growth anytime soon. It looks like there will be more stagnation, and possibly even some decline. But most Indians are actually very optimistic about India's future. So, we should be happy for them.
 

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I think thirty years is about as reasonable as any single figure could hope to be, so let's go with that. The implication is that India by mid-century will be roughly where China is today. If that were to happen, it would be a fantastic achievement for India and for all who dream of a world that is unshackled from western hegemony and its attendant mythologies. A linear twenty, thirty, even fifty-year gap is not particularly troubling from this perspective. Rather, the risks to the emergence of India as a major contributor to a post-western world are systemic: rampant corruption, cultural infiltration and civil conflict, hard resource limits amidst climate change, robotics and AI as profound disruptors of paths to economic development.
With the way things are going with Modi administration, I actually think 30 years is far too optimistic. Closer to 40 years. That is, it would take India roughly 40 years to reach 2023 PRC in economic, technological, human and cultural development.

Unfortunately, China is not going to freeze in time for 40 years. It will continue industrializing and developing at the fastest pace any civilization has developed in human history. In 40 years China may be close to type 1 civilization.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Yes, it does sound misleading to compare the Indian economy today with that of China in 2007. It makes it sound like India is looking like China back in 2007. That is absolutely not the case. While India's GDP size today is comparable to that of China in 2007, it's economy is nothing like China's economy in 2007. China's economy then was just 3 years away from overtaking the Japanese economy. I just don't think that Indian could overtake the Japanese economy anytime soon. India is not deeply integrated into the world economy like China was in the 00s. The world economy can function just fine without India in the picture. There are many better outsourcing alternatives to China that are not India. Many Western brands are not rushing into the Indian market like they were with China back in 00's. While Apple are trying India out now. GM, Ford, Nissan, Carrefour, Holcim, and Lafarge have already left India. That 'massive Indian market' is apparently not profitable enough for MNCs to keep doing business there. Not a good indicator for India's globalization future.

China opened it's first HSR in 2007, while India is nowhere near completing its first HSR within this year. Indians themselves followed the Western narrative to blast the Chinese HSR as 'unprofitable'. So India doesn't look like it's in a hurry to massively upgrade it's infrastructure. China is constantly on an infrastructure building spree since the 90s, while India has been talking more, and delivering comparatively very little.

In terms of education. This is where the cheerleaders for India should actually worry. Instead of implementing serious education programs, India under the BJP is focused more into religious education. Sometimes even examining students on the topic of the Holy Cow. The quality of STEM research in India has been declining ever since Modi took power. They are now riding on the last legs of the Manmohan-era scientific research. India had gone from developing the failed Kaveri engine in the 90s-00s, to developing electric-tipped Thrishul (Lord Shiva's trident) today. If that is what the JHs call progress, then good for them.

China in the 00s was working in multilateral trade frameworks like the WTO. China's doors are open to businesses from adversaries like Japan and the US, as long as they follow China's rules of no politics, which is actually quite lenient. India's economy today is more protectionist than it was in the 00s. More arbitrary punishments, more red tape, and more barriers. Its transforming more into a gangster-like business environment. India turned away the BRI, declining massive development and FDI opportunities. India turned away RCEP, isolating its economy from the rest of Asia. The US has recently emerged as India's largest trading partner, no longer China. India has chosen to tie its economy closer to the US. But then India also wants to attempt dedolarization to promote its Rupee. So good luck to both of them.

So while India's GDP is comparable to China's in 2007. India's future economic prospects are not ;looking positive indeed. Unlike China in 2007, India is not on the path to super economic growth anytime soon. It looks like there will be more stagnation, and possibly even some decline. But most Indians are actually very optimistic about India's future. So, we should be happy for them.
Let's compare India to 2000 China.

In 2000, China had:

1. SMIC which was a 180 nm fab - leading edge at the time.
2. Tencent already came out with QQ, the first domestic social media
5. Alibaba
4. BYD
5. Baidu
6. Huawei
7. ZTE
8. J-10

So does India today have a leading edge semiconductor fab, domestic social media, domestic ecommerce, domestic cars, domestic search engine, domestic telecom and domestic 4th gen medium fighter?
 

Biscuits

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Allegedly during a meeting between high rank Chinese and Russian military delegates, the Chinese wanted to ask how many warheads would make the Russians uncomfortable, at the same time the Russian wanted to ask how many the Chinese intended to have, after a while both sides decided better not to talk about the issue.
If it goes by according the words "the amount of warheads should match the economic power", 1499 warheads will be my guess.
At the current moment, China doesn't seem to pursue an attempted nuclear victory posture, it is just content to sit at MAD with USA like in the past.

China's most cutting edge first strike technologies can also be used in conventional strike, and it is probably in the conventional domain where Beijing will focus.

MAD can only protect the core lands of the country, which is a fluent concept but nevertheless real. For example, if America occupied Taiwan or some random SCS island, it would be commonly accepted that China would not nuclear attack over it. Likewise, if China occupied Guam and Okinawa, America would be commonly accepted as not initiating nuclear attacks over it.

The battlefields of the future will be not on the core territory of nuclear powers, but on disputed areas and inside subordinate countries such as Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, the Koreas etc, with nuclear weapons acting as a guardrail.
 

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Indian hackers have reportedly attempted a cyber attack on the Malaysian Central Bank.
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The Kerala Cyber Xtractors hacker group allegedly attacked the Malaysian Central Bank. According to reports, the group announced its plans to target Indonesian organizations almost a week back. The website is inaccessible post the announcement of the Malaysia Central Bank cyberattack by the group.
So is this part of India's masterplan to wants to win friends in the SEA?

A group of Malaysian hacktivists
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The group, reportedly called the “Malaysian Cyber Army”, claimed responsibility for the attacks carried out against Indian government and commercial websites.

The report states that the hacktivists used Distributed Denial-of-Service (DDoS) attacks to take down the targeted websites, rendering them inaccessible to users. The websites that were targeted included those belonging to the Indian government, educational institutions, and commercial entities.
I wasn't aware that Malaysia and India are in a Cyber War against each other. Have the Indians truly verified that those hackers were really Malaysians? Hackers are notorious for using false IP addresses.
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Kerala Cyber Xtractors, allegedly from the Thiruvananthapuram city of Kerala, India, also breached the education and healthcare sector of Indonesia, a post read. They leaked COVID certificates, and other sensitive data from their database.

Scrolling through the previous claims, the group also launched attacks on Pakistani organizations.
That's how you know that the "Kerala Cyber Xtractors" are really from India.


India is also apparently also in a Cyber War with Indonesia:
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A new group of hackers, which calls itself the ‘Indian Cyber Mafia’, has allegedly launched cyberattacks on Indonesian universities.
Singapore based technology security company Fusion Intelligence Center @DarkTracer tweeted about the
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between the nations with the above screenshot of the Indian Cyber Mafia.

The tweet stated that websites of several universities were defaced in the cyberattacks by the Indian Cyber Mafia targeting Indonesia
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Cyber attacks happens regularly. But in India, its apparently something that is worthy of national pride. So Indians apparently think that messing around with Indonesia and Malaysia is something to be proud of. No prizes as to why India is not very popular in amongst most of SEA.
 

Overbom

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Indian hackers have reportedly attempted a cyber attack on the Malaysian Central Bank.
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So is this part of India's masterplan to wants to win friends in the SEA?


I wasn't aware that Malaysia and India are in a Cyber War against each other. Have the Indians truly verified that those hackers were really Malaysians? Hackers are notorious for using false IP addresses.
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That's how you know that the "Kerala Cyber Xtractors" are really from India.


India is also apparently also in a Cyber War with Indonesia:
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Cyber attacks happens regularly. But in India, its apparently something that is worthy of national pride. So Indians apparently think that messing around with Indonesia and Malaysia is something to be proud of. No prizes as to why India is not very popular in amongst most of SEA.
Everyone hacks everyone. The only difference is that the Jai Hinders are stupid enough to publicly admit it
 
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