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Petrolicious88 said:
Understandable from Japanese perspective though. Would you want a dominant US that’s far away, or a dominant China right next door.
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Japan would be fine under a Chinese hegemony, in fact they would probably fair better than they are now.

Japan's ruling class however will be fucked, as they are a direct continuation of the WW2 government. They will either have to be replace entirely or radically changed from within. And they know this, that's why they have to keep visit that shrine to keep the faith. Once a faction arise that want nothing to do with the imperial past all hell will break loose.
 
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They will be treated business like, win-win situations, i pay you money you give me the product and vice versa, nothing more nothing less as it always has been
There will be no monroe doctrine in asia, thats only for white supremacist anglo imperialists
China does not interfere in other countries internal affairs
And by the way China rise is unstoppable so the japanese better start learn to live with it, just as China accepted being encircled by us military bases next door
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Hi Bajingan,

Japan had offer a Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere during the 1930's as a way of self sufficiency among Asian. China is making Japan dream come true with a Caveat... ;) :cool: hehehe Karma surely is a bitch and Japan need to swallow it's pride and accept the inevitable.:cool::cool::cool:
 
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ansy1968 said:
Hi Petrolicious88,

It will be okay under a Chinese hegemony, China had returned to its former glory just like in ancient times. Look it had endure and is okay with a rich Japan in a hegemonic US era. Everybody adjust, it's the mind frame that need to change. I think all the nation that you mention signing off RCEP is acknowledging a fait accompli.
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Careful about China “returning to its former glory” narrative. History has no reason to repeat itself unless we make it so. Though it certainly looks like China is going in the right trajectory.

Also, this is the first time Japan and China have been powerful together in the same era. Japan has a lot of adjustment to do as China rises. They are not used to it.

But again, from their perspective, it’s better to have an “emperor” that’s far away than one that’s next door.
 
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Petrolicious88 said:
Careful about China “returning to its former glory” narrative. History has no reason to repeat itself unless we make it so. Though it certainly looks like China is going in the right trajectory.

Also, this is the first time Japan and China have been powerful together in the same era. Japan has a lot of adjustment to do as China rises. It won’t be easy for them.

But again, from their perspective, it’s better to have an “emperor” that’s far away than one that’s next door.
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Hi Petrolicious88,

Careful about China “returning to its former glory” narrative. History has no reason to repeat itself unless we make it so. Though it certainly looks like China is going in the right trajectory.

I think you had been mistaken, It's the aspiration of all Chinese people , diaspora , Hua Qiao and even the ABC and CBC to see the rejuvenation of China , its culture, respect and it's right full place in the world. That's what we striving for all this time.

Also, this is the first time Japan and China have been powerful together in the same era. Japan has a lot of adjustment to do as China rises. It won’t be easy for them.

Yes, I agree as with the US, I think its harder for the US than Japan, under PAX AMERICA the Japanese had learned to adjust so they're capable of changing, but how about the Americans can they adjust to the new reality?

But again, from their perspective, it’s better to have an “emperor” that’s far away than one that’s next door.

It's been Chinese policy to never intervene in other countries domestic affairs, so in their perspective it's true.
 
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solarz said:
Great analysis of the Meng Wanzhou case by an actual legal authority:


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I always maintained that Trudeau was lying when he said he couldn't intervene in the Meng case. Glad to see my stance supported by an actual expert.
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hmm, around the 28minute mark, Kurland referring to sec 23 of the extradition act says "any minister can pull the case not the prime minister" so technically Trudeau wasn't lying.;) {just nit picking}
 
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I wish Chinese social would blow this video up, and name it ‘red-face Trudeau caught lying’ or something along those lines, so that a Chinese reporter could confront Trudeau during a press conference, and word it something along the lines of, ‘Mr Prime Minister, I would like to get your reaction to the new ‘red-face’ video posted online about you’, and see the blink panic on his face as he desperately try to remember which past fancy dress event might have surfaced now.
 
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With Concessions and Deals, China’s Leader Tries to Box Out Biden​

Xi Jinping has been making trade agreements in Asia and now Europe, hoping to head off the incoming president’s efforts to rally a united front against China.
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A trade pact with 14 other Asian nations. A pledge to join other countries in reducing carbon emissions to fight global warming. Now, an investment agreement with the European Union.

China’s leader, Xi Jinping, has in recent weeks made deals and pledges that he hopes will position his country as an indispensable global leader, even after its handling of the coronavirus and increased belligerence at home and abroad have damaged its international standing.

In doing so, he has underlined how difficult it will be for President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. to forge a united front with allies against China’s authoritarian policies and trade practices, a central focus of the new administration’s plan to compete with Beijing and check its rising power. The image of Mr. Xi joining Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany, President Emmanuel Macron of France and other European leaders in a conference call on Wednesday to seal the deal with the European Union also amounted to a stinging rebuke of the Trump administration’s efforts to isolate China’s Communist Party state.
 
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solarz said:
Great analysis of the Meng Wanzhou case by an actual legal authority:


Background on Richard Kurland:

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I always maintained that Trudeau was lying when he said he couldn't intervene in the Meng case. Glad to see my stance supported by an actual expert.
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I'm sorry to say Solarz, I know his your prime minister. But Personally, I think he's a disgrace. He's not even half the man his father was. and that is saying something.
 
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