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Gatekeeper

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Wow. This is some revelation. Georgia's state recorded a call from Trump that's full of threats according to CBS.

And earlier one his generals advised T Trump, "you can't do that". No one knows what does this relate to. Scary stuff with only a few days to go. It looks like Trump is getting desperate.

From CBS.

Trump heard on tape urging Georgia officials to "find" enough votes to overturn presidential results

BY MELISSA QUINN

UPDATED ON: JANUARY 3, 2021 / 3:58 PM / CBS NEWS

Washington — On an hour-long phone call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Saturday, President Trump pressured him and other officials to "find" enough votes in the state's presidential election to make him the winner, according to audio of the call obtained and published by The Washington Post.

During the call, which Mr. Trump revealed occurred in a tweet earlier Sunday, the president told Raffensperger, "All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state," the Post reported.

"The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry," Mr. Trump can be heard saying on the audio recording of the call. "And there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you've recalculated."
Raffensperger, a Republican, pushed back against Mr. Trump's suggestion, telling him "the data you have is wrong." He also repeatedly told Mr. Trump the results of the election were accurate and rebuffed the president's unfounded claims.

Mr. Trump lost the presidential race in Georgia to President-elect Joe Biden by 11,779 votes. Since the November election, ballots cast in the state have been counted a total of three times, with the president-elect's win affirmed each time.

The president's call with Raffensperger marked a significant and stunning escalation in his attempts to reverse the outcome of the presidential election. In the weeks since November 3, Mr. Trump has mounted several campaigns in an effort to overturn the results, looking to the courts, then to state legislatures and now Congress to deliver him a second term.

But Mr. Trump's bevy of lawsuits have largely been dismissed, and the states have all certified their election results. Additionally, presidential electors from the 50 states and the District of Columbia convened December 14 to cast their votes, again reaffirming Mr. Biden's win.

Still, Mr. Trump has refused to accept the results of the election, especially in Georgia, and repeatedly attacked Raffensperger and Governor Brian Kemp, also a Republican. Mr. Biden's victory there marked the first time in nearly 30 years a Democrat won the state.

In addition to suggesting Raffensperger "find" the votes to reverse his defeat in Georgia, he also repeated unfounded conspiracy theories about Dominion Voting Systems, a company that provided software used in 28 states.

"Do you think it's possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? Because that's what the rumor is. And also that Dominion took out machines. That Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their machinery. Do you know anything about that? Because that's illegal," Mr. Trump asked Raffensperger and his general counsel Ryan Germany, who was also on the call.

Germany told the president, "No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County" and repeatedly shot down Mr. Trump's continued claims as to whether Dominion "moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them with other parts."

According to the Post, Mr. Trump called Raffensperger a "child" and "either dishonest or incompetent" for not believing there was voter fraud in Atlanta. The president called himself a "schmuck" for endorsing Kemp, and appeared to threaten Raffensperger and Germany over alleged fraud, though there has been no evidence to support his claims ballots were illegally destroyed.

"You know what they did, and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal, that's a criminal offense," he said. "And you can't let that happen. That's a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that's a big risk."

Mr. Trump then claimed ballots were being shredded and machinery removed.

"You can't let it happen and you are letting it happen," he said, according to the audio published by the Post. "I'm notifying you that you're letting it happen."

Mr. Trump said Raffensperger's refusal to reverse the outcome of the presidential race will deter Republicans from turning out to vote in a pair of runoff elections Tuesday, the results of which will determine which party controls the Senate.

"You have a big election coming up and because of what you've done to the president — you know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam," Trump said, according to the Post. "Because of what you've done to the president, a lot of people aren't going out to vote, and a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative, because they hate what you did to the president. OK? They hate it. And they're going to vote. And you would be respected, really respected, if this can be straightened out before the election."

Mr. Trump referred to the call earlier Sunday on Twitter, saying he talked to Raffensperger about Fulton County and alleged voter fraud in the state.

"He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the 'ballots under table; scam, ballot destruction, out of state 'voters', dead voters, and more. He has no clue!" the president said.

In response to Mr. Trump's tweet, Raffensperger said, "Respectfully, President Trump: What you're saying is not true. The truth will come out."

Congress will convene in a joint session Wednesday to tally and certify the results of the Electoral College. More than 100 GOP House members are expected to object to some states' results, and a group of nearly a dozen Republican senators also plan to challenge the electoral results unless a commission to audit the results is appointed.

Their objections, however, are highly unlikely to succeed, as both chambers must separately vote to sustain an objection. With Democrats controlling the House, it's all but guaranteed lawmakers will not toss out Mr. Biden's electoral votes.

First published on January 3, 2021 / 2:31 PM

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Litebreeze

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Is the US up to something?

An extremely tense situation with Iran prompted the Acting Secretary of Defense to order Nimitz to stay in the Middle East for the foreseeable future.

Just two days after the Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller had ordered the supercarrier, USS Nimitz, to head home as a "de-esclatory" gesture toward Iran, the order has been rescinded and the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group is now set to remain in the Middle East until further notice.
The return to Bremerton, Washington was seemingly overdue, but that is now put on hold in order to counter potential Iranian hostilities, or even possibly take part in an operation against that country should President Donald Trump give the order to execute one.
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plawolf

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Gee, aljazeera was an "ok". (Not good, but not bad either) news outlet few years ago. Now it just a rabid anti-China like the best of the west.
Aljazeera become extremely Anti-China these days. And because a sizeable Muslim population follow it and trust it, they tend to believe whatever is being posted. Among Muslims, Chinas image has taken a beating because of such outlets . Their fake news headline last month that Pork is being forcibly fed to Uighurs went viral and naturally caused a lot of resentment.

Because its state owned ,China should consider it to be the official line of Qatar & carry out economic sanctions against them. The damage caused by such media is much more extreme than many think.
How else do you guys think Al-Z went to public enemy number one during the gulf war days to an ‘accepted responsible’ member of the western MSM today? :rolleyes:
 

Litebreeze

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UK judge refuses US extradition of Wikileaks founder Assange. Not based on Free press or freedom of speech, but likely suicide in US prison.

A British judge on Monday rejected the United States’ request to extradite WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to face espionage charges, saying he was likely to kill himself if held under harsh U.S. prison conditions.

US will appeal.
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NiuBiDaRen

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Global Times: More gatherings, celebrations will be held in Wuhan - West should get used to it
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More big gatherings like the New Year celebrations, sports events and live concerts will be staged in Wuhan, which was the hardest-hit city in China by COVID-19, during 2021, and the world had better get used to it, Wuhan residents said, calling on some Westerners to save their fellow countrymen following Chinese experiences rather than attacking Wuhan's gatherings with prejudice and hostility.

When large crowds of Wuhan residents took to streets and launched balloons to celebrate the arrival of 2021 on New Year's Eve, in sharp contrast with what Western media called a ghost town like Times Square with roads closed but no live audience, some Westerners with jealous eyes were sarcastic about Wuhan.

Telegraph columnist Allison Pearson asked, "How has Wuhan achieved this without a vaccine?" while posting the news about Wuhan residents' celebrations of the New Year in her tweet. She even questioned whether the footage of the celebrations was staged.
 

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Global Times: More gatherings, celebrations will be held in Wuhan - West should get used to it
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More big gatherings like the New Year celebrations, sports events and live concerts will be staged in Wuhan, which was the hardest-hit city in China by COVID-19, during 2021, and the world had better get used to it, Wuhan residents said, calling on some Westerners to save their fellow countrymen following Chinese experiences rather than attacking Wuhan's gatherings with prejudice and hostility.

When large crowds of Wuhan residents took to streets and launched balloons to celebrate the arrival of 2021 on New Year's Eve, in sharp contrast with what Western media called a ghost town like Times Square with roads closed but no live audience, some Westerners with jealous eyes were sarcastic about Wuhan.

Telegraph columnist Allison Pearson asked, "How has Wuhan achieved this without a vaccine?" while posting the news about Wuhan residents' celebrations of the New Year in her tweet. She even questioned whether the footage of the celebrations was staged.
"How has Wuhan achieved this without a vaccine?"

I think I understand how the western countries got to their current point. China has since it's first beginning, shown how infectious it is, how to stay safe, mask and distance protocols, what the government should do such as lockdowns and building hospitals, what the people should do like listen to their governments, and released any and all research papers on the virus.

The verdict: YOU SHOULD'VE JUST LISTENED!
 

taxiya

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Gee, aljazeera was an "ok". (Not good, but not bad either) news outlet few years ago. Now it just a rabid anti-China like the best of the west.
I think aljazeera is always as bad as the western medias like BBC, CNN and NYT. I remember many years ago, China denied visa extensions of aljazeera's reporters in China. That was even before the recent denial of US reporters in China.

IMO, aljazeera is the CNN in the Arabic world, it was very active during the "Arab Spring" or I should say "Arab Winter". It's ideology may look liberal compared with the Gulf Monarchs, but that liberal is certainly modeled on western liberal ideals mixed with Muslim Brotherhood. None of these two are any friendlier to China than the west. Remember, Qatar the state is the only gulf state backing MB.
 
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