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emblem21

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AndrewS said:
What do those words and support for Australia actually mean? It barely registers from an information, propaganda or economic point of view.

And from the Chinese point of view, it's already written off the USA, Australia and some of the West.
So what matters is the rest of the world.

From the Chinese point of view, the bigger and more high profile this argument gets, the better, because Australia (and its supporters) look bad.
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Also to note is that all there supporters have bad situation going for them and in reality are benefitting from australia being in a bad situation right now in that either China is buying there goods (and not Australian) but also helps to mitigate some of the bad press in there region and on a scarier point paints a red bulls eye as a racist nation that invades other nations and kills children and still hasn’t made any real attempt to apologise except for a few small words that mean nothing. This is very bad for future investment and relations with the Middle East and other nations that don’t like the west (which there are quite a lot and even the west isn’t going to bother shelling out troops or money since australia isn’t being attacked and it actually benefits them for australia to be in the dumps.
Hence why Scot Morrison is not in a very good place at all and if the australia businesses decide to make the point known with there wallets and help the Labour Party (and they will have to try and amend relations or they will be in the shits as well). The australia businesses and corporations did warn Morrison not to push things and now he did and thus now is the time to slowly crucify him like Turnbull as a warning to all future leaders in regards any future decisions regarding trade.
The scary part is that he has managed to anger Russia and China at the same time, both of which are very dumb decisions

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"Breaking & World News! III NO DISCUSSION!!"
I suggest everyone calm down and migrate to a more appropriate thread
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True hence I think I regards to the vaccine, I am interested how Russia’s vaccine compared to that of China’s right now and also if the one in the USA is really going to be rolled out later in the month
 
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KYli

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As expected, the so called olive branch is just empty slogan.
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Australia Says It Won’t Give Ground on China’s Grievances

(Bloomberg) -- Australia said it won’t give ground on a list of Chinese grievances against the government as a growing diplomatic row hurts trade between the two countries.

A Chinese diplomat in Canberra last month handed media outlets a document outlining 14 grievances, from Australia meddling in domestic affairs in Hong Kong to calling for a probe into the coronavirus outbreak. Relations have been souring for months, with a string of commodities targeted with tariffs or bans in what Canberra says amounts to “economic coercion.”

Referring to the list of grievances, Treasurer Josh Frydenberg told Sky News on Thursday that Australia is “not going to give way on those.”
“They go to the heart of who we are,” he said. “Our national identity, a free press, a democratically elected parliament and obviously upholding our national interest when it comes to things like foreign investment.”

Relations hit a new low this week after a diplomat in Beijing tweeted a fake image purporting to show an Australian soldier holding a knife to the throat of an Afghan child -- a reference to an ongoing war crimes probe. Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the post was “repugnant” and demanded an apology. He also took to WeChat, defending Australia as a “free, democratic, liberal country” and explaining that an official probe is underway to investigate allegations of atrocities committed by Australian special forces soldiers in Afghanistan.

China’s Wolf Warrior Diplomats Slam Australia, Win Fans at Home
That post has been deleted by WeChat, for the use of “misleading words” to “distort historical events and deceive the public.”
Frydenberg said the removal was unnecessary.

Ties between the major trading partners have been strained since 2018 when Canberra barred Huawei Technologies Co. from building its 5G network and introducing anti-foreign interference laws aimed at halting Beijing’s “meddling” in domestic affairs. Relations have been in a deep freeze since April, when Morrison’s government called for independent investigators to enter Wuhan to probe the origins of the coronavirus.
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Gatekeeper

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AndrewS said:
What do those words and support for Australia actually mean? It barely registers from an information, propaganda or economic point of view.

And from the Chinese point of view, it's already written off the USA, Australia and some of the West.
So what matters is the rest of the world.

From the Chinese point of view, the bigger and more high profile this argument gets, the better, because Australia (and its supporters) look bad.
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I agree. I'm now really looking to have a "fight" with you. I'm just saying these annoying show of "support" has been noticed, particularly by China.

Which is why China's foreign ministry felt obliged to respond. In addition, you can be assured that all the ill-will shown have been clocked for future relationship and policy implementation.

Which is also why some of the white nations remain strangely silent on this, as they don't want to fall on the wrong side of their biggest customer.
 
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MixedReality

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KYli said:
As expected, the so called olive branch is just empty slogan.
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Australia Says It Won’t Give Ground on China’s Grievances

(Bloomberg) -- Australia said it won’t give ground on a list of Chinese grievances against the government as a growing diplomatic row hurts trade between the two countries.

A Chinese diplomat in Canberra last month handed media outlets a document outlining 14 grievances, from Australia meddling in domestic affairs in Hong Kong to calling for a probe into the coronavirus outbreak. Relations have been souring for months, with a string of commodities targeted with tariffs or bans in what Canberra says amounts to “economic coercion.”

Referring to the list of grievances, Treasurer Josh Frydenberg told Sky News on Thursday that Australia is “not going to give way on those.”
“They go to the heart of who we are,” he said. “Our national identity, a free press, a democratically elected parliament and obviously upholding our national interest when it comes to things like foreign investment.”

Relations hit a new low this week after a diplomat in Beijing tweeted a fake image purporting to show an Australian soldier holding a knife to the throat of an Afghan child -- a reference to an ongoing war crimes probe. Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the post was “repugnant” and demanded an apology. He also took to WeChat, defending Australia as a “free, democratic, liberal country” and explaining that an official probe is underway to investigate allegations of atrocities committed by Australian special forces soldiers in Afghanistan.

China’s Wolf Warrior Diplomats Slam Australia, Win Fans at Home
That post has been deleted by WeChat, for the use of “misleading words” to “distort historical events and deceive the public.”
Frydenberg said the removal was unnecessary.

Ties between the major trading partners have been strained since 2018 when Canberra barred Huawei Technologies Co. from building its 5G network and introducing anti-foreign interference laws aimed at halting Beijing’s “meddling” in domestic affairs. Relations have been in a deep freeze since April, when Morrison’s government called for independent investigators to enter Wuhan to probe the origins of the coronavirus.
©2020 Bloomberg L.P.
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Next step for China is to ban all Chinese tourists and students to Australia. Cut off those 2 revenue sources.
 
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B.I.B.

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MixedReality said:
Next step for China is to ban all Chinese tourists and students to Australia. Cut off those 2 revenue sources.
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On top of this, there is this year's current grain crop. At the last minute before the aussies find another market, they should tell them that because of the agreement they made with the U.S. in part one of the trade war settlement, they won't be needing any more Australian grain.
 
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China’s Path to Net Zero

Chinese President Xi Jinping’s recent announcement that China aims to achieve carbon neutrality before 2060 marks one of the most important policy initiatives of the last 40 years. Reaching this goal will require extensive collaboration between government and the private sector, animated by a heightened sense of urgency.

China is aiming to halt the rise in its carbon dioxide emissions before 2030 and to achieve carbon neutrality before 2060. If it succeeds, the country will have gone, in less than 40 years, from being the world’s largest CO2 emitter to bringing its emissions into balance.

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I know USA doesn't count emissions from the US military (which has to be huge) as part of national emissions, which makes me wonder how much the US military really emits.
 
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FangYuan

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MixedReality said:
Next step for China is to ban all Chinese tourists and students to Australia. Cut off those 2 revenue sources.
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1. Chinese universities are much better than universities from Australia and Europe. Many talented weapon designers, chip designers, management experts ... have graduated from universities in the country. Australia has nothing to teach China. There are only a few universities in the world, such as MIT equivalent to BeiHang and QingHua

2. Australian universities are very dangerous to Asian students. There have been many sexual attacks in the past and they do nothing to improve security. White supremacy and anti-China hostility will cause Australia to sexually assault Chinese students now and in the future. Australian University wants Chinese students money and wants to continue insulting China.

3. Australian universities put a lot of anti-China propaganda into their training. Their teachers repeatedly declared Taiwan and Hong Kong as independent countries and taught it to students from China. They even said that the disputed Sino-Indian territory belonged to India ...

China should ban students and visitors to Australia
 
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