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pmc

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I wonder the extent of contributions of Chinese-Americans made to America's medals.

Some countries may not send there best to such competition from various reason like those who study that will become part of there defense. this Europa Horizon 2020 funding. where is Hungry and Romania who got so many medals in Math Olympiad. but that one associated country got 5% of funding and is mostly concentrated in Computer and Mathematics.
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that has the most powerfull defense industry and is well represented in Nasdaq not like it need EU science funding.

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siegecrossbow

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When I was a child, I used to read Western memoirs recalling diplomatic visits, in which India would hang giant white sheets on the roadsides to hide slums. This was in the '60s or even the '90s.

Those same books told me that India's economy was booming and that it was going to rival China. I naturally assumed that soon, India would no longer need to do these things when foreign leaders visited. Because, as India became the next China, the slums would gradually disappear. It would become a thing of the distant past.

I'm now an adult, it's decades later, and that apparently did not happen. The massive slums are still there, it seems. It's very sad.

There has been massive change though. These days they build physical brick walls instead of using flimsy white sheets that could be easily blown away.
 

Rast

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When I was a child, I used to read Western memoirs recalling diplomatic visits, in which India would hang giant white sheets on the roadsides to hide slums. This was in the '60s or even the '90s.

Those same books told me that India's economy was booming and that it was going to rival China. I naturally assumed that soon, India would no longer need to do these things when foreign leaders visited. Because, as India became the next China, the slums would gradually disappear. It would become a thing of the distant past.

I'm now an adult, it's decades later, and that apparently did not happen. The massive slums are still there, it seems. It's very sad.

Interesting anecdote, could you kindly let me know the titles of these memoirs? It sounds like a interesting view into the day to day operations of historic India.
 

MortyandRick

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When you try to be tough on China but get lynched by both pro-China and anti-China people


Some memes from comments. Really though. The comment section is so funny.

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This statement should really be said to the Americans but Canada will never do it. There is a concerted social media compaign to increase the voices of conservatives. I've noticed this pretty apparently that there seems to be a very vocal conservative minority and it is likely perpetuated by American media companies with Canadian spy agency.

China has no influence on Canada at all but they are exaggerating this china elections interference to make sure that the current government is more hawkish on china or else the Americans will try to get the conservatives elected, who are rabidly pro Americans and anti China and racist. It's pretty clear.

I suspect with the next elections, the conservatives will win maybe a minority government. Which is usually unlikely since they are too socially conservative for Canada.

China really needs to up their media game. Not in the 5 eyes counties but the global south countries so they have a counter voice.
 

RedMetalSeadramon

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This statement should really be said to the Americans but Canada will never do it. There is a concerted social media compaign to increase the voices of conservatives. I've noticed this pretty apparently that there seems to be a very vocal conservative minority and it is likely perpetuated by American media companies with Canadian spy agency.

China has no influence on Canada at all but they are exaggerating this china elections interference to make sure that the current government is more hawkish on china or else the Americans will try to get the conservatives elected, who are rabidly pro Americans and anti China and racist. It's pretty clear.

I suspect with the next elections, the conservatives will win maybe a minority government. Which is usually unlikely since they are too socially conservative for Canada.

China really needs to up their media game. Not in the 5 eyes counties but the global south countries so they have a counter voice.
Cant, Conservatives really boned themselves and cant get past the great wall of 404. They cannot win if they cant secure the 905 belt and they lost a lot of Chinese votes in those areas. Their losses in 2021 were devastating and will remain so
 

BoraTas

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This statement should really be said to the Americans but Canada will never do it. There is a concerted social media compaign to increase the voices of conservatives. I've noticed this pretty apparently that there seems to be a very vocal conservative minority and it is likely perpetuated by American media companies with Canadian spy agency.

China has no influence on Canada at all but they are exaggerating this china elections interference to make sure that the current government is more hawkish on china or else the Americans will try to get the conservatives elected, who are rabidly pro Americans and anti China and racist. It's pretty clear.

I suspect with the next elections, the conservatives will win maybe a minority government. Which is usually unlikely since they are too socially conservative for Canada.

China really needs to up their media game. Not in the 5 eyes counties but the global south countries so they have a counter voice.
It has more to do with the prevalence of conservatism in the USA. Conservative populism and their memes are very prevalent in the USA. Because a good chunk of the White majority was left to anti-intellectualism and low wage growth around 40 years ago. Now the Republican party is capitalizing on this and the Democrats made everything worse by canceling these people.

On the other hand similar problems exist in the rest of the West too and social media deleted all cultural barriers among English-speaking nations. America's size and lack of any language barriers led to the assimilation of the UK, Australia and Canada into the American culture. You can see almost all American trends in these countries. Anti-China, isolationism, woke, memeing very vocal conservatives etc...
 

Eventine

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I just think that the US is basically setting up a multi-nation sanctions package on China. By hyping up that China is sending arms to Russia. That means that there is a 90% chance that they are gonna sanction China anyways, regardless of whether China actually did it or not. All the drama and hype is to build a case for those sanctions.

That Uighur slave labor BS story worked quite well. Chinese firms in Xinjiang were sanctioned, and many Xinjiang products were banned in the West.

I suspect that the US is seeking to sanction and weaken Chinese firms that were directly or indirectly involved in the defense industry. The US should want to cut them off from Western financing, material shipments, and other stuff. For example, cutting off Chinese shipyards from European-made marine engines. Or blocking specific ores from being exported to China.

I'm curious to see what justification the US and friends will use when they finally pull the sanctions trigger. Maybe the US gets the Ukrainians to recover a drone wreck and say that it's electronics were made in China. Then more sanctions on China's semiconductor industry. Or maybe the US might cook up a story with ASPI that China covertly shipped artillery shells to Russia. Then initiate a kind of global ban on certain ore shipments to China.
It's the same play book they used against Russia.

The US national security establishment - what many call the deep state - has determined that the way forward is to weaken the US's opponents via sanctions, first, before escalating into a conflict like Ukraine. This plan was long in the making and probably started even before the rise of Trump - who may, in fact, have been put into place by the security establishment to take the fall for any negative economic and social results.

Do not underestimate the US's capacity for strategic aggression. But at the same time, do not overestimate their capabilities, either. Even as they execute long-term plans to destroy their opponents and maintain hegemony, in the end, there are limits to American power.
 

Chevalier

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This statement should really be said to the Americans but Canada will never do it. There is a concerted social media compaign to increase the voices of conservatives. I've noticed this pretty apparently that there seems to be a very vocal conservative minority and it is likely perpetuated by American media companies with Canadian spy agency.

China has no influence on Canada at all but they are exaggerating this china elections interference to make sure that the current government is more hawkish on china or else the Americans will try to get the conservatives elected, who are rabidly pro Americans and anti China and racist. It's pretty clear.

I suspect with the next elections, the conservatives will win maybe a minority government. Which is usually unlikely since they are too socially conservative for Canada.

China really needs to up their media game. Not in the 5 eyes counties but the global south countries so they have a counter voice.

Cant, Conservatives really boned themselves and cant get past the great wall of 404. They cannot win if they cant secure the 905 belt and they lost a lot of Chinese votes in those areas. Their losses in 2021 were devastating and will remain so
Same in Australia where the Chinese vote was decisive in the removal of the conservative Liberal Party- and i'd wager this is another reason why the Anglo warmongers are eager for war- so they can corral and Internment Camp all of these Chinese Voters so they can maintain power.
Typical story of moving manufacturing in India. The biggest problem with many Indians today is that they think that they've made it. That India is already the finished product. Once some Western companies started shifting some production from China to India, then they think that India has won. They have an entitled mindset, and the results shows.

Just look at how they talk:

Can Apple wait 3 years? Can Indian suppliers really do it in 3 years? Or is this yet another Indian promise? India was supposed to have zero poverty by 2020, boasted Abdul Kalam. If Apple still trusts Indian timetables, and goals, then good luck to Apple.


Again, this is yet another Indian reminder to Apple that its India who sets the standards, not Apple. If Apple don't like it, then it has to learn to 'jugaad' aka: make do with what India is giving you. India won't go out of its way like what China did, to work on improving itself to meet Apple's standards. India is already perfect. It is always you, the foreigners, who needs to learn the art of jugaad.

So Apple has the freedom to make a choice. Apple either learns to jugaad and lower its QC standards to Indian standards, or it just can return to China and maintain Apple standards.
Yes, and that's key: if Apple does move production to India and conforms to "jugaad", then it's worldwide reputation will suffer and Chinese brands like Huawei and Oppo will more than happily eat Apple's lunch. Ever since Jobs passed away, Apple has been cruising on its Legacy rather than innovating- compromising on quality just for the mirage of India's supposed massive market will be the downfall of Apple.

India, having been suitably chastened and discplined by its Anglo Masters now dutifully follows them in diplomatically attacking Russia. Can it really be called pathetic when Indian leadership was already so slavish to Atlanticist interests?
Lavrov certainly isn't happy:
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If India was sincere in its 'non aligned movement', and sincere in being taken seriously as a "superpower" and not simply another Sepoy for the Anglos, then it could have left the Quad, it could have affirmed the UN Mandate, it could have supported China's Peace Proposal- which even the Hungarians and Ukrainians have supported. Yet all i am reading from all of this is that India may as well have returned to the Raj because then at least the trains would have run on time.

At least if India took a page from Turkey, it could at least have gained the best from both worlds rather than disdain at being an obvious slave to its former Colonisers - even as the India diaspora moans over Colonialism, whilst moaning over not getting enough choice perks whilst nepotistically getting their brethren into choice positions through affirmative action.

In Turkey meanwhile, Erdogan looks like he could well win the next election, the Opposition is in disarray:
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Regarding the Ukrainian incursion into Bryansk, the Russian MOFA has labeled the attack as a terrorist attack sanctioned by NATO:
Ukrainian officials have repeatedly acknowledged that all their actions are carried out with the approval and support of the United States and other NATO countries. The killings in the Bryansk Region were committed with NATO weapons. This raises a legitimate question about classifying those states as accomplices to such crimes and as sponsors of terrorism.

We have drawn appropriate conclusions from what happened. Russian investigative bodies have opened an investigation. This crime will not go unpunished.
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Meaning it would now be legitimate for RF to take the war into NATO countries like Poland and Lithuania.
 
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