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Temstar

Brigadier
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Russia has suspended her participation in the START-3 nuclear arms reduction treaty.




Looks like the US-Russia nuclear arms race has restarted. Sooner or later, China will be dragged into one, even if she has no such intention to be involved. There exists no other choice for China.
This isn't really a good thing for US. In US mind they have to have US > Russia + China in terms of warhead and delivery vehicle. Right now that's already a questionable equation after China's new windmill expansion. Even to maintain current delivery vehicle count US will have to spend a lot of money into Sentinel ICBM and Colombia class. I just saw some pictures of the existing Minuteman III silos the other day and their conditions aren't good:
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Have to fix them up, convert them into housing the new ICBM and build those ICBMs. It's not a trivial thing and doubly so if you insist on building two warhead+delivery for each Russian or Chinese counterpart.

Funnily enough a nuclear arms race is bad for American MIC, as resources shifted into nuclear weapons will compete with funding for conventional military force.
 
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BlackWindMnt

Major
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Chinese needs 10000 to 50000 nukes asap... I said this day 1
China should sharpen its nuclear spear tip so it can completely nuke the US or the World multiple times over.


For Russia just draw a line west of Kiev and the Dnjepr to north west transnistria and call it a day. Give the rest of west Ukraine to Poland or the EU after bombing the living shit out of it.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
While a reverse Munich agreement where Russia freezes the war in Ukraine in exchange for the west unfreezing their assets, and promptly spends it all on new Chinese arms to come back for round 3 in 6-7 years would be poetic justice, I think the broader geopolitical landscape does not allow for it as China cannot afford to let the US and NATO off the hook so easily, since they will just come straight for China next if they are freed of their Ukrainian burden.

I think China will offer a serious, viable peace deal that Russia can live with and pre-agreed, and which is actually fair and reasonable for Ukraine and the EU, but which would be fundamentally unacceptable to the Americans. That is what Washington fears most, that China will come and tear their mask off so the world can see their true face and designs.

All of this Chinese lethal aid nonsense is just what the American government and MSM does best, pull lies out of their ass to create and control the narrative first before the other guy even gets to speak as a means to not have to address and deal with the actual points being raised.
 

sheogorath

Colonel
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I think China will offer a serious, viable peace deal that Russia can live with and pre-agreed, and which is actually fair and reasonable for Ukraine and the EU, but which would be fundamentally unacceptable to the Americans. That is what Washington fears most, that China will come and tear their mask off so the world can see their true face and designs.

Seems the best course of action, given that NATO insists on keeping Ukraine armed(i.e staying in Ukraine) after the war. The only way to ensure that would be to reduce Ukraine to its minimal expression and that will require tons of weapons.
 

Abominable

Major
Registered Member
Russia has suspended her participation in the START-3 nuclear arms reduction treaty.




Looks like the US-Russia nuclear arms race has restarted. Sooner or later, China will be dragged into one, even if she has no such intention to be involved. There exists no other choice for China.
Suspending START is a big deal and a sad day for China. I was hoping Russia would just let the treaty expire in 2026, but the writing was on the wall with the recent inspection denial. An nuclear arms race between Russia and America is inevitable now.

It's also interesting he mentioned Americans were planning on testing a nuclear device. It's questionable whether that is true, Americans have no interest in turning this conflict into a nuclear one. They've been downplaying the nuclear threat to their own people from the start. I think the Russians are planning on a nuclear test just to show the west they aren't messing around.
 

baykalov

Senior Member
Registered Member
The gardener Josep Borrel: "Why do you worry that I can give weapons to Russia if you give weapons to Ukraine [Wang Yi] asked?"
- "I had to explain to him the big difference, tell him what threat the war in Ukraine poses to us. This is different!" - Josep Borrel said at a press conference in NATO.


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plawolf

Lieutenant General
Suspending START is a big deal and a sad day for China. I was hoping Russia would just let the treaty expire in 2026, but the writing was on the wall with the recent inspection denial. An nuclear arms race between Russia and America is inevitable now.

It's also interesting he mentioned Americans were planning on testing a nuclear device. It's questionable whether that is true, Americans have no interest in turning this conflict into a nuclear one. They've been downplaying the nuclear threat to their own people from the start. I think the Russians are planning on a nuclear test just to show the west they aren't messing around.

The end of START is no skin off China’s nose. Chinese nuclear expansion is about achieving true MAD with the US. That is a set number of nukes and missiles and not really impacted by any additional American nukes. It doesn’t matter if America can nuke China 10 times over if China can nuke America once over, dead is dead. Just like how the Soviet’s warhead advantage against the US didn’t count for anything during the Cold War.

If anything, America wasting resources on more nukes they will never use just speeds up China catching up and surpassing them conventionally across the board.

Frankly, the US would have to be stupid to get into a nuclear arms race with China right now, since China actually needs to boost its deployed missile and warhead count. America matching China silo for silo of new construction just means America has a massively excessive number of silos and warheads to waste money on maintaining.
 
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