Yeah that's not really derailing, that's just lying flat.
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This kind of preaching to the choir isn't necessary, and that degree of alarmism and grievance airing isn't that useful.
To yourself and to others, chill out a bit.
@KampfAlwin and others, there's no need to keep posting twitter threads that are essentially just arguments for the sake of mocking them here.
None of the above is a formal warning in any form, and is not in moderator red or blue. It's just some friendly advice for now.
The Russian pranksters Vovan and Lexus have struck again, I think at this point they have everyone in Washington on speed dial.
This time it's Mark Esper, former head of the Pentagon under Trump. He was a general before his political career but has transitioned to uniparty warhawk quite seamlessly.
Most of the call is amateurish but there is one nugget. Around 6 minutes he's talking about his conversations with Shoigu when he was in power. He says he spoke a little about Syria and Libya but of his conversations with him was about China....
It goes along with what we've been hearing from other leaks, like the German admiral who thought NATO should partner with Russia against China because they were both "Christian".
I'm convinced the Russians were employing maskirovka since 2014. They were telling the Americans what they wanted to hear about China and completely blindsided them when they launched the war.
This time it's Mark Esper, former head of the Pentagon under Trump. He was a general before his political career but has transitioned to uniparty warhawk quite seamlessly.
Most of the call is amateurish but there is one nugget. Around 6 minutes he's talking about his conversations with Shoigu when he was in power. He says he spoke a little about Syria and Libya but of his conversations with him was about China....
It goes along with what we've been hearing from other leaks, like the German admiral who thought NATO should partner with Russia against China because they were both "Christian".
I'm convinced the Russians were employing maskirovka since 2014. They were telling the Americans what they wanted to hear about China and completely blindsided them when they launched the war.
LOL, he keeps digging a deeper hole for himself. The baby formula incident was a criminal act. If you deliberately adulterate your product with a potential toxin you are breaking the law and you get punished - the legal system doesn't need public backlash to operate. Isn't their criticism of China that it's supposedly an authoritarian police state?
With the Ohio mess, the regulations are so bad it will be questionable whether the railway operators were even breaking the law. It could drag on for years and make some lawyers and Wall Street guys rich before the taxpayer inevitably picks up the tab. The American regime spent weeks trying to censor and ignore what happened, public outcry is literally the only reason why anything is being done.
Btw, top quality post as always, @BoraTas
That Island in SCS in urgent need of militarization now. This clown Marcos has gone too far. Wise decisions to hold back on the investments in PH by China so far despite the overtures by Duterte. When the population is dumb and toxic, no matter who holds the office, he has to dance to their tunes, this doesn't mean Marcos had any affinity to improve PH-CN relations in the first place. Show them their third world place by imposing restrictions on visas of their maids and nurses and banning their stupid bananas for health & safety reasons while militarizing that Island. Enough with the niceties. Maybe even tell the coast guard to start ramming their fishing boats or whatever, puny little bunch of islands wanna play tough with a superpower? So be it.
Doesn't matter. All for show.
Lethe
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The "rules-based order" is a recent innovation by the United States to lend legitimacy to its efforts to maintain and extend its hegemony outside the inconvenient bounds of international law:
So it is no accident that the "rules-based order" is entirely compatible with America being able to do whatever it likes (including sabotaging its allies' critical infrastructure). The concept was invented by the hegemon to lend a veneer of respectability to its practices and preferences.
Or they could've been genuine. Russia plays both sides. In fact, they far prefer their European brethren to the asiatic hordes. If not for NATO's missteps, Russia wouldn't have turned to China. Even now you'll find Russian commentators complaining how China isn't doing enough to supply them and confront the US, while Russians are selflessly shedding blood directly fighting the hegemon. It's rather similar to how Ukraine (and to an extent all proxy states) beg and at the same time secretly resent the US. It's in Russia's natural interests to stir up trouble between east and west so that China is weakened and has no choice but to turn to Russia.
The "Christian" factor is funny but it's exactly the way white imperialistic states like Germany and Russia think. Never forget that Russia was also part of the 8 nation alliance. China's rise is no less existential to them and their worldview.
"OUR WAR". BoJo’s 8-point wet dream:
6. Plan for Russia’s Future
NATO and the alliance’s partners must prepare for the aftermath of Ukraine’s victory: a diminished Russia. The lack of strategic thinking about Russia’s future is concerning. Western thinking has over-focused on Putin’s personal role in recent years. Contingency planning for after the war should include scenarios ranging from a hardline post-Putin regime to the possible disintegration of the Russian Federation.
While taking advantage of any opportunities arising for engagement with civil society leaders within Russia, allies should seize the opportunity presented by the large and growing Russian diaspora. Working to consolidate the emigres’ identity around the values of the free, democratic world will help shape Russia’s political future when they return.
7. Combat Authoritarian Influence Operations in the Global South
Western countries should strengthen efforts and relationships in Latin America, Africa, and Asia. Russia and China successfully target audiences and stoke anti-Western sentiments in these regions. Russia peddles false narratives about the war, while China uses soft-power tools and financial dependence to legitimize its role on the world stage and silence potential critics. Both countries attempt to portray universal values, such as human rights and the rule of law, as dangerous or alien Western ideas. The alliance must advance a comprehensive strategy to counter these influence operations and uphold universal values.
6. Plan for Russia’s Future
NATO and the alliance’s partners must prepare for the aftermath of Ukraine’s victory: a diminished Russia. The lack of strategic thinking about Russia’s future is concerning. Western thinking has over-focused on Putin’s personal role in recent years. Contingency planning for after the war should include scenarios ranging from a hardline post-Putin regime to the possible disintegration of the Russian Federation.
While taking advantage of any opportunities arising for engagement with civil society leaders within Russia, allies should seize the opportunity presented by the large and growing Russian diaspora. Working to consolidate the emigres’ identity around the values of the free, democratic world will help shape Russia’s political future when they return.
7. Combat Authoritarian Influence Operations in the Global South
Western countries should strengthen efforts and relationships in Latin America, Africa, and Asia. Russia and China successfully target audiences and stoke anti-Western sentiments in these regions. Russia peddles false narratives about the war, while China uses soft-power tools and financial dependence to legitimize its role on the world stage and silence potential critics. Both countries attempt to portray universal values, such as human rights and the rule of law, as dangerous or alien Western ideas. The alliance must advance a comprehensive strategy to counter these influence operations and uphold universal values.