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supersnoop

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I'd think China would be amenable to amending terms so long as it's in the interest of both parties, esp. if it's of strategic import to China.

Here's an anecdote from the former Greek finance minister who presided over the renegotiation with COSCO on ownership of the Port of Piraeus -


The whole Q&A is also an interesting and amusing watch.

Problem is that President Tshishekedi is the first one to come to power peacefully since independence
Mobutu had deposed Patrice Lumumba (engineered by Belgium and the CIA)
Laurent Kabila deposed Mobutu
Joseph Kabila came to power after his father was killed in a coup attempt
Finally Joseph Kabila stepped down on his own.
Not really stable...
 

Stryker

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Problem is that President Tshishekedi is the first one to come to power peacefully since independence
Mobutu had deposed Patrice Lumumba (engineered by Belgium and the CIA)
Laurent Kabila deposed Mobutu
Joseph Kabila came to power after his father was killed in a coup attempt
Finally Joseph Kabila stepped down on his own.
Not really stable...
Should set the MSS loose on this guy and prop up a new proxy. I've been a proponent of using MSS just like US uses CIA and NED for a long time. Superpower needs to play these games in the third world to avoid paying the costs by themselves. Best outcome would be a China affiliated guy in the office and things go as planned. Worst case outcome, China cuts her losses after trying her hand atthe color revolution game and turns the country upside down, tough luck to anyone eyeing the mines when the country is embroiled in a civil war between China allied faction and West allied faction, who cares lmao. MSS gets real world experience in organising colour revolution and conducting live operations on foreign soil either way which is another positive. Gotta start sharpening our blades now if war is to come. Enough with the shared future for humanity bs. Welcome to Great power competition.
 

JewPizza

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Should set the MSS loose on this guy and prop up a new proxy. I've been a proponent of using MSS just like US uses CIA and NED for a long time. Superpower needs to play these games in the third world to avoid paying the costs by themselves. Best outcome would be a China affiliated guy in the office and things go as planned. Worst case outcome, China cuts her losses after trying her hand atthe color revolution game and turns the country upside down, tough luck to anyone eyeing the mines when the country is embroiled in a civil war between China allied faction and West allied faction, who cares lmao. MSS gets real world experience in organising colour revolution and conducting live operations on foreign soil either way which is another positive. Gotta start sharpening our blades now if war is to come. Enough with the shared future for humanity bs. Welcome to Great power competition.
Why are you so desperate for China to be a hegemony? Hegemonism is a dead end. The Party and Xi has stated this plenty of times.
 

pmc

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Its not like they could really ignore it anymore when China and Russia start asking for an investigation of the terrorist attack in the United Nations.
Germany cannot ignore it because it is Hersch story. Germany need to pay attention to them otherwise more will come out. It lowers the expectation on Israel before the visit.
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Zelensky, during that meeting, reportedly stated that Iran was their “common enemy.” But Cohen made it clear to the Ukrainian president that Israel does not plan to provide it with defensive weapons, the kind that could protect Ukrainian citizens against armed Iranian drones Russia has launched against them.

Cohen was struck during his many conversations with foreign leaders in the past weeks about how important Ukraine was to them and how significant it was for Israel to stand with like-minded Western countries.
 

supersnoop

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Should set the MSS loose on this guy and prop up a new proxy. I've been a proponent of using MSS just like US uses CIA and NED for a long time. Superpower needs to play these games in the third world to avoid paying the costs by themselves. Best outcome would be a China affiliated guy in the office and things go as planned. Worst case outcome, China cuts her losses after trying her hand atthe color revolution game and turns the country upside down, tough luck to anyone eyeing the mines when the country is embroiled in a civil war between China allied faction and West allied faction, who cares lmao. MSS gets real world experience in organising colour revolution and conducting live operations on foreign soil either way which is another positive. Gotta start sharpening our blades now if war is to come. Enough with the shared future for humanity bs. Welcome to Great power competition.
Color Revolution is not really a great strategy.
What is China's history with armed groups internationally?
UNITA in Angola? Shan State Rebels in Myanmar? Khmer Rouge?
Tying themselves up with the CIA, drug dealers, and Pol Pot? Not a great track record...

Even America's history is not great, Ukraine, Libya, Syria, Republic of Vietnam, KMT...
 

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Rookie mistake from the self-appointed Secretary of Agriculture.

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And who is the major supplier? Chynnnaaa!!!!

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Jan 15, 2023 — Food prices in the Philippines have skyrocketed recently, with onions now selling for 720 pesos (US$13) a kilogram, up from just 60 pesos in ...

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Jan 9, 2023 — The Philippines is a regular onion importer and usually buys from China and other Asian neighbours. "We don't really have (enough) supply of ...
 
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Biscuits

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Should set the MSS loose on this guy and prop up a new proxy. I've been a proponent of using MSS just like US uses CIA and NED for a long time. Superpower needs to play these games in the third world to avoid paying the costs by themselves. Best outcome would be a China affiliated guy in the office and things go as planned. Worst case outcome, China cuts her losses after trying her hand atthe color revolution game and turns the country upside down, tough luck to anyone eyeing the mines when the country is embroiled in a civil war between China allied faction and West allied faction, who cares lmao. MSS gets real world experience in organising colour revolution and conducting live operations on foreign soil either way which is another positive. Gotta start sharpening our blades now if war is to come. Enough with the shared future for humanity bs. Welcome to Great power competition.
Most of the time it can be a problem because the new guy is usually a great bozo that immediately betrays you anyways, because you've rightfully earned the people's hatred and most dictators are also populists.

What China seems to be doing is the global equivalent of surrounding the cities from the countryside. Instead of meeting US country for country, they're focusing on shoring up the existing international system from every single direction at once. In some points, there are setbacks and resistance, but China is helping to stabilise and prepare almost every country that isn't blatantly US client states, and even on client states, China is ready to offer bargains for switching sides.

This means that even if some fronts are not moving now, US can only respond to so many fronts at a time, and they don't have the economical size or industrial depth that China has which would allow them to respond to everything at once.

There are some places where China needs to seriously consider a strategy of direct action, but some random third world country is absolutely not that. The third world countries that are still free need to be mostly stable so they can help fuel the global economy. However, on third world countries with dubious leanings, a strategy of encouraging breakup might be good.
 
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