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taxiya

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That's not entirely true, if the parents are permanent residents and the child is issued the passport of his country of birth, then the child forfeits his Chinese citizenship.

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Eileen Gu is an American citizen, and most likely does not have PRC citizenship, but as I pointed out earlier, the IOC is not concerned with citizenship, only nationality. Eileen Gu is able to claim Chinese nationality through her mother.
The key is how to interpret this text 本人出生时即具有外国国籍的

That foreign citizenship is put on the person without the person's consent. What if the parents want to keep Chinese citizenship for the child? Does Chinese law deprive Chinese baby's right to be Chinese especially when the parents are still Chinese citizen?

I acknowledge that I did not consult the Chinese legal agencies for the interpretation though.

Regarding IOC rules, isn't citizenship and nationality the same thing in different words? I mean in passport it is stated nationality but it is same as citizenship.
 
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solarz

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But now with Gu wanting to be an ambassador for the US winter olympics, I think her fan base in China is going to be disappointed.
The Chinese media and fans in China lionized her too much. And now they're going to have to deal with the bitter aftertaste, sadly.

I don't see an issue with that. What's wrong with her being an ambassador for US Olympic bid? Just because the Americans are foaming at the mouth at anything Chinese, doesn't mean we should do the same.

TBH, instead of relying on Gu to give the middle finger to the haters, China needs to develop and promote its homegrown talents. Imagine if the national team had dozens of top tier talents winning Olympic gold. That would be an even more satisfying win for the country..

The two aren't mutually exclusive. You develop your own talent pool and you seize whatever opportunity comes your way.
 

solarz

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The key is how to interpret this text 本人出生时即具有外国国籍的

That foreign citizenship is put on the person without the person's consent. What if the parents want to keep Chinese citizenship for the child? Does Chinese law deprive Chinese baby's right to be Chinese especially when the parents are still Chinese citizen?

I acknowledge that I did not consult the Chinese legal agencies for the interpretation though.

Well I can only tell you what my neighbors told me about their kids. They are Chinese PR, and their kids born in Canada. When they inquired to the Chinese consulate about their children's citizenship in order to visit China, they were told their children do not have Chinese citizenship and would need visas.
 

siegecrossbow

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Disagree on politically like Soviets and economically like Japan.

Soviets lost their resolve and were politically imploding while China is on the political rise with great confidence.

Japan was in an asset bubble and were setting the stage for a lost 30 years while China is setting the stage for further growth.

By politically I meant geopolitical clout, not political system.
 

FriedButter

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US military says ‘no nuclear material’ on board crashed plane​

San Diego reporter Malik Earnest tweeted that the aircraft was “loaded with nuclear material with at least 5 people aboard.” He later added that Imperial County officials are assuming that all five people aboard had died.

“Additional details about nuclear material aboard are not known. The military now has the scene,” added Earnest.

 

ZeEa5KPul

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By politically I meant geopolitical clout, not political system.
That was a result of a world war, it wasn't something the USSR got by the strength of its economy or attractiveness of its ideology. It just took territory in war and installed puppet governments. Incidentally, that's also the only reason the US has the strength it does today.

The more time goes by, the more I'm convinced that China can only attain such clout through war.
 

Century2030

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I don't see an issue with that. What's wrong with her being an ambassador for US Olympic bid? Just because the Americans are foaming at the mouth at anything Chinese, doesn't mean we should do the same.
Personally, I'm not concerned with this either. I'm just pointing out that because of the previous media hype surrounding Gu in China, lots of people's expectations have been set too high. Now the fanbase might become unhappy with this move. Celebrity fandom in China is highly toxic lol..

The two aren't mutually exclusive. You develop your own talent pool and you seize whatever opportunity comes your way.
Developing talents includes promoting them via the media. Athletes in particular rely a lot on equipment sponsorships.
More fans = more equipment sales = more sponsorships

When Gu is in the media spotlight 90% of the time, other athletes are going to have a hard time gaining visibility among the general public.
 

Michaelsinodef

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Personally, I'm not concerned with this either. I'm just pointing out that because of the previous media hype surrounding Gu in China, lots of people's expectations have been set too high. Now the fanbase might become unhappy with this move. Celebrity fandom in China is highly toxic lol..


Developing talents includes promoting them via the media. Athletes in particular rely a lot on equipment sponsorships.
More fans = more equipment sales = more sponsorships

When Gu is in the media spotlight 90% of the time, other athletes are going to have a hard time gaining visibility among the general public.
Chinese media in general have room for improvement.

And toxic fans isn't a China only problem, its pretty much worldwide, although I do agree in that China should look into decreasing it/improving fan culture.
 
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